medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
I frequently [but not always] find references to "Chrysostom" and other
Eastern fathers in medieval exegetical works to derive from the Catena
aurea of Aquinas.
Tom Izbicki
At 06:40 PM 5/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
>Those interested in this topic may wish to have a look at Ludolf of
>Saxony's _Vita Christi_ (I have used the edition by Rigollet and others,
>Rome, 1865), part I, ch. 3, pp. 13b-14a, where he refers to the story in
>the Protevangelium Jacobi and other extra-canonical sources for the life
>of Mary about the chief priest summoning all marriagable men to Jerusalem,
>each with a rod; Joseph's rod blossomed (as Aaron's had) and Joseph was
>thus chosen to be Mary's husband/custos etc. Ludolf quotes Chrysostom and
>Ambrose regarding the blossom and the fruit in the spiritual sense, and
>applies both to both Mary and Christ. The words between * and * are topic
>headings added by the modern editors to Ludolf's text; the references in [
>] are their references to Scripture and the Ambrose; they did not offer a
>reference for Chrysostom and I have not attempted to track this down.
>
>There's more on Mary's and Joseph's lineage etc. in this chapter and ch. 2
>(I believe). Ludolf is a good compendium of 14th-century assumptions
>about the life of Christ and Mary.
>
>Dennis Martin
>
>
>*Joseph virga floruit* Erat autem inter [13b bottom] ceteros homo nomine
>Joseph, qui cum virgam suam attulisset, et ipsa illico florem germinasset,
>atque in ejus cacumine columba de coelo veniens consedisset, liquido
>omnibus patuit ipsi Virginem desponsandam fore. Unde in libris Numerorum
>legitur, quod Moyses "invenit virgam Aaron germinasse, et turgentibus
>gemmis, flores erupisse, qui foliis dilatatis in amygdalas deformati sunt"
>[Num 17:8] *Virgae Aaron comparatur Maria* Per istam intelligi potest
>beata Virgo, quae instar virgae fuit gracilis per paupertatem, et
>flexibilis per humilitatem, et recta per intentionem et caritatem. Ista
>Virgo inventa est "gemmis turgentibus," quando Filium Dei in tero suo
>concepit, ex qua flores fructiferi eruperunt, quando Dei Filius, ipsa
>manente virgine, natus fuit. Nam sicut flos non violat arborem, sed
>ornat; sic Dei Filius non violavit Virginem, sed magis donis et gratiis
>adornavit. Haec est virga quae, secundum Chrysostomum, in tabernaculo
>testimonii posita, sine humore terrae fructum nucis germinavit; quia sine
>viri semine Filium edidit, qui tanquam nux ligno passionis adhaesit. Et
>bene, nunc flos, nunc fructus dicitur: quia, secundum Ambrosium [Ambr.
>lib. 2 in Luc. c. 1] veluti boni arboris fructus pro nostrae virtutis
>processu, nunc floret, nunc fructificat in nobis; nunc rediviva corporis
>resurrectione reparatur. *Flos et fructus dicitur Christus* Ideo etiam
>alibi flos, alibi fructus dicitur: quia in utriusque Testamenti paginis
>ita praedicatur, flos in littera, fructus in spiritu; flos in Lege,
>fructus in gratia et veritate; flos in priori tabernaculo, fructus in
>secundo; [14a] flos in observatione carnalium sacrificiorum, fructus in
>spirituali intelligentia mysteriorum. Sicut enim in flore fructus
>praenuntiatur, sic in illis ceremoniis Christus venturus
>significabatur. Patet itaque quod Christus flos dicitur in prophetica
>Veteris Testamenti promissione, qui et fructus vocatur in Novi Testamenti
>gratiae perfectione. Sed sicut fructus non apparet virente flor
>patuit carnali observatione manente. Arescente vero flore, fructus
>videtur; quia decidente Lege, "gratia et veritas per Jesusm Christum
>facta" [Jn 1:17] tenetur.
>
> >>> [log in to unmask] 05/12/01 11:45 AM >>>
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
>Plus we have the interesting distinction between
>theology today (largely irrelevant to this list) and
>what was believed in the M.A. A theologian friend of
>mine says the belief in Mary's Davidic roots (pun
>intended) is "traditional." I suspect that the
>thinking may have been thus: if Jesus is of the
>Davidic line and was not the natural son of Joseph,
>then Mary musthave been of that line.
>In any case, I have also contacted the (lamented) Bill
>East for comment as I'm completely out of my depth
>here and I'll post any response I receive.
>Best,
>MG
>--- Sharon Dale <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval
> > religion and culture
> >
> > Marjorie--it is Isaiah Chap. 11. In the vulgate the
> > wording is "et
> > egredietur virga de radice Iesse et flos de radice
> > eius ascendent"
> > "And there shall come forth a rod out of the root
> > of Jesse and a flower
> > shall rise up out of his root." the rod would be
> > Mary and the flower,
> > Christ. At least that is my understanding. Christ
> > can't be both rod and
> > flower. I think that we have an interesting word
> > play here-- virga is rod
> > or green twig which was bent (pun intended here)
> > into virgin which in the
> > latin is virgo. I leave it to the hardcore Latinists
> > to tease out anything
> > more. And thanks to Christopher for pointing us to
> > the Speculum piece. all
> > best, sharon
> >
> >
> > ___________________________
> >
> > Sharon Dale Ph.D.
> > Associate Professor of Art History
> > Penn State Erie, The Behrend College
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marjorie Greene <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 10:20 AM
> > Subject: [M-R] Root of Jesse
> >
> >
> > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of
> > medieval religion and culture
> > >
> > > Sharon,
> > > Can you send me that ref. to Isaiah again? I
> > deleted
> > > your message and all I find in Is. (chapter 11) is
> > > reference to the Radix as the Messiah. In fact,
> > Radix
> > > Jesse is one of the O antiphons of Advent and
> > refers
> > > to Christ.
> > > Best,
> > > MG
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great
> > prices
> > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
>**********************************************************************
> > > To join the list,send the message: join
> > medieval-religion YOUR NAME
> > > to: [log in to unmask]
> > > To send a message to the list, address it to:
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > To leave the list, send the message: leave
> > medieval-religion
> > > to: [log in to unmask]
> > > In order to report problems or to contact the
> > list's owners, write to:
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > For further information, visit our web site:
> > >
> >
>http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html
> > >
> >
> >
>**********************************************************************
> > To join the list, send the message: join
> > medieval-religion YOUR NAME
> > to: [log in to unmask]
> > To send a message to the list, address it to:
> > [log in to unmask]
> > To leave the list, send the message: leave
> > medieval-religion
> > to: [log in to unmask]
> > In order to report problems or to contact the list's
> > owners, write to:
> > [log in to unmask]
> > For further information, visit our web site:
> >
>http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
>http://auctions.yahoo.com/
>
>**********************************************************************
>To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME
>to: [log in to unmask]
>To send a message to the list, address it to:
>[log in to unmask]
>To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion
>to: [log in to unmask]
>In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to:
>[log in to unmask]
>For further information, visit our web site:
>http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html
>
>**********************************************************************
>To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME
>to: [log in to unmask]
>To send a message to the list, address it to:
>[log in to unmask]
>To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion
>to: [log in to unmask]
>In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to:
>[log in to unmask]
>For further information, visit our web site:
>http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html
**********************************************************************
To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME
to: [log in to unmask]
To send a message to the list, address it to:
[log in to unmask]
To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion
to: [log in to unmask]
In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to:
[log in to unmask]
For further information, visit our web site:
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html
|