I have not followed this thread closely, but FYI, sometime in the 1980s the
Vatican (via an indult, I think) officially sanctioned the use of the
Tridentine rite on a limited basis. In the U.S., at least, I believe that
in most metropolitan areas the Tridentine Mass is available in at least one
church, for at least one mass. I know that this is the case in Columbus,
OH, for instance. One church in our diocese offers the Tridentine Rite once
per weekend. The readings from the lectionary are done in English, however,
as is the homily.
At 12:16 PM 2/10/2001 -0000, you wrote:
>Not total uniformity of liturgy. Some rites existed post Trent, some
still do.
>
>The orders with a pre Tridentine rite of their own for 200 years could
keep it. Some still exist (e.g. Carthusian) some disappeared (e.g.
Dominican). I understand there is interest amongst the Dominicans to
restore their rite.
>
>Some local rites also persist notably the various Eastern rites and the
Ambrosian (Milanese)
>
>Interestingly the Dominican church in Newcastle has a weekly Tridentine
mass, although it would not have been the pre Vatican II rite there!
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dennis Martin [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:49 PM
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>Subject: Re: "Tridentine" & "Triduum"
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>Tridentine comes from the Latin form of Trent/Trient, i.e., the Council of
Trent, 1545-1563. The "tridentine Church" or "rite" is an informal use of
the Council of Trent's legislation to demarcate the early modern and modern
character of the Catholic Church, when international uniformity (e.g., in
liturgy) corresponded to the rise of natiionalism and the resultant
pressure for national (i.e., no longer catholic, meaning universal).
>
>Triduum means "three days" and refers to the holiest time of the Christian
year, from Holy Thursday through Easter Sunday.
>
>Dennis Martin
>
>>>> [log in to unmask] 02/08/01 07:43AM >>>
>Hail numerology afficionados. I have a pair of questions related to the
>number 3, viz.,
>
>I have seen references in a number of messages in this list to "Tridentine"
>(e.g., the "post-Tridentine church", the "pre-Tridentine world," &c. Also
>to the "Triduum" (the latter in the context of the liturgical calendar,
>esp. Passover, Easter and the Annunciation). These are both terms beyond
>my ken, and none of my sources, alas, explain their meaning. Would some
>kind soul(s) enlighten me?
>
>--Christopher
>
>
Jane Warburton
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