Richard,
not to drag this out too much longer, but yes I understand your yearning
for a more inclusive term to recognize the shift in our thinking about the
periodic paradigms of the past, or paradigms about periods that are now or
ought to be in the past.
Just think of the revolution in curriculum planning this will cause!
Frankly I don't see it happening for any but a few departments in art
history for about 25 years--a very pessimistic outlook, at which point
there may not be a subfield of medieval anyway, though whether it will be
supplanted by an expanded area of early modern studies is a good
question. I find it hard to thnk of Constantine's Arch as early modern. On
the other hand, perhaps 4th-10th C could become "post-ancient" for western
and byz. developments. I rather like the idea of a 15th - 17c
faux-classical subfield.
Leah
At 03:39 PM 12/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>At 03:17 PM 12/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>At 02:54 PM 12/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>>In a message dated 12/20/00 2:01:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
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>>>On popular millennial movements, Gombrich was writing about them long ago.
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>>>pat
>>Pat, which essay are you thinking of with regard to millenialism? As I
>>understand Gombrich, he is a very stimulating writer and strong thinker,
>>but was "really" a Renaissance expert w/ an eye for the antique and had
>>little or nothing to say about the 11th century popular culture
>
>of course millennialism, as cohn who wrote a book about it without ever
>mentioning 1000 showed, is more than merely the chronological cusp of a
>thousand year period.
>
>>Richard, in response to your question about what to call the proto-gothic
>>or 12th C inbetween period, Larry Hoey, whose recent death was such a loss
>>to us on so many levels, was working on exactly this question of transition
>>as a formal problem in architecture (which, along with monumental
>>sculpture, is another mode of cognition or thinking), but had not to my
>>knowledge come up with a "name" for whatever this (cultural period and/or
>>proclivity) is (but if anyone knows otherwise, please post!)--this may be
>>just as well -- why add another proper noun.
>
>i was actually looking for a term that cd encompass both gothic and
>romanesque as a recogniton that they are part of the same "elan" (so for
>the architectural and artistic styles of the 11th to 15th cns).
>
>r
>
>
>>Leah
>
>Richard Landes
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