Dangerous to rely on my ever weaker memory, but IIRC Hans Kung offered a
brief historical survey of the phrase somewhere either in _Die Kirche_ or
_Unfehlbar_.
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From: Thomas Izbicki <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: creed
> On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:13:10 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: creed
> >
> > In a message dated 10-13-1999 5:28:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > > Perhaps so. Actually the priest Pat was quoting had misinformed her
in
> > > two ways, A) that belief in Christ's descent to the place of the dead
> > > is not required of Catholics and B) that the doctrine is not
mentioned
> > > in the Bible.
> > >
> > > For Catholics, though, the deciding factor is not the opinion of "the
> > > Church en masse". Cf. the definition of the doctrine of Papal
> > > Infallibility of 1870:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > just for my information: which Pontiff spoke ex cathedra on the descent,
and
> > when?
> >
> > pat
> >
> I am planning to do some research some day on the term ex cathedra (or de
> cathedra). Has anyone found it used before the 16th century? I have
> seen it in Salmeron, a Jesuit at Trent; and, as I recall Sieben's
> footnote, S. got it from Pigghius.
>
> Tom Izbicki
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