"you can go to hell, but you're a fair screw"
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I don't think there's any truthfulness there.
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>Arrogance, selfishness, predation, preconsciousness... or possibly
>postconsciousness.
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>Death.
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>Readable but not truthful, it doesn't reach the necessary threshold, and
>not
>at all intriguing to me.
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i believe i submitted this insult as there was a request by somebody called
keith, for good insults. now i believe this to be a good insult and will
defend it as i think you disagree with me on the matter.
it is certainly arrogant, but aren't all insults. surely when discourse
reaches the point of insult, then arrogance usually occurs. to assume you
are right in a matter to the point that you will argue and then eventually
insult someone, would indicate arrogance, surely.
basically i agree with your points, but am very intrigued by the concept of
death you mention. this got me thinking. do you mean the death of love? the
death of sense, wit or maybe the very nature that the subject is being
discussed on the 'britishpoets' mailing list to be a signifier of our
cultures death and descent into dystopia? whatever, i like the notion.
also, you say it does'nt reach a necessary threshold for you, how do you
mean. is this a threshold of poetic content, diction or just simply a level
of emotional power. i ask this because i found it effective that it had none
of the above, i personally find emotionless insults the most insulting,
especially of the sexual nature, as the convey the saddening fact that you
cannot even get an emotional rise out of your insulter (if that is not a
word please forgive me, but i hope you know what i mean).
anyway, i change my mind, i agree with you that it is not a truthful
statement, i believe it to be a deeply revealing statement of weakness on
the behalf of the speaker.
pre consciousness? this is a strange concept, but not as strange (or as
ridiculously academic for the sake of it)as post consciousness. however i do
find it wonderful that the lyrics of lemmy from motorhead have been
described with such colorful language. that is itself a first and probably
reason enough for such words to exist.
thanks for the reply, more will be very highly appreciated
tom pattison
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