JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for COMP-FORTRAN-90 Archives


COMP-FORTRAN-90 Archives

COMP-FORTRAN-90 Archives


COMP-FORTRAN-90@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

COMP-FORTRAN-90 Home

COMP-FORTRAN-90 Home

COMP-FORTRAN-90  1998

COMP-FORTRAN-90 1998

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Pointer Behaviour

From:

"Dr W.W. Schulz" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Dr W.W. Schulz

Date:

Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:22:26 +0100 (BST)

Content-Type:

TEXT/PLAIN

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

TEXT/PLAIN (116 lines)

My recent mailing was of course wrong. All who replied waving the
F90 standard were right.

BUT. I still don't like the behaviour prescribed by the Fortram standard.
Having pointers in undefined states is unsafe, is --as I was reminded--
beyond the control of the programmer but the programmer is held
responsible. This is too onesided. I tried to think of a way around it
within the constraints of the Fortran standard but that is not possible
as several comments pointed out my errors.
Until I realized that my initial gut reaction was right and the culprit
is the Fortran standard.
Why? Because Fortran committees avoided (weazled out of) a correct and
proper solution for this important safety problem and left the Fortran
programmer with onus of getting an impossible task right.

The problem is the well-known dangling pointer problem. Example:

    real, pointer :: a, b
    allocate( a ) ; a = 1.0
    b => a
    deallocate( a )

Pointer b is left dangling after deallocation of a. Everything would be fine
if one just nullified a. The standard clearly says when a pointer becomes
undefined (dangling) and these are essentially variations of the above
example.

How can one avoid the dangling pointer problem?

Simply by not deallocating the memory. As long as an object in memory has
potential references in the programme it must not be deallocated (freed).
It is a much too complicated job for a programmer to worry about memory
management in detail. This should and must be left to a GARBAGE COLLECTOR
(GC). Yes right, that is the only sound and safe way of handling memory.
(Modern GCs are quite efficient and of course much better at reclaiming
unused memory than any human programmer. And why reinvent the wheel
again and again.)

Before anybody gets to scared about this, some memory management can be
done quite safely by the programmer, viz. the allocation and deallocation
of ALLOCATABLE variables without the TARGET attribute. And that is quite
a large chunk in the typical Fortran programme.

However, any object in memory that can be accessed in several ways can
not be handled safely by the programmer, it must be done through GC.
That is in constructs like

     real, dimension(:), allocatable, target :: t
     real, dimension(:), pointer             :: p, r, s

     allocate( t(100) )
     allocate( p(100) )
     r => t
     s => p

t and p should never be DEALLOCATEd but just nullified (pointers) or detached
(allocatable targets):

     detach( t )   ! ALLOCATED(t)    = FALSE
     nullify( p )  ! ASSOCIATED( p ) = FALSE

This leaves r and s still properly associated with the respective objects
in memory.

Local variables inside a procedure can be targets and pointed to by
actual arguments. This requires some extra rules/constraints.
For example, one could just disallow a non-local pointer to point
to a local procedure target:

    subroutine foo( p )
       real, pointer :: p
       real, target  :: t
       p => t              ! Bad, disallow it because t and its memory
			   ! ceases to exist after return
    end subroutine foo

However, 

    subroutine foo( p )
       real, pointer :: p
       real, pointer :: temp
       allocate( temp )
       p => temp
    end subroutine foo

is fine since temp should only be nullified at the exit of foo and not
deallocated. (This is important for handling dynamic data structures.)

These rules are the basis for safe and sound handling of memory and
sufficient in all (nearly all?) situations. (I would claim that any
case for the "nearly all" version has some flaw which would exclude it
as a counter example.)

With this basic outline there is no need for an undefined state of
pointers anywhere in a Fortran programme. It shifts the responsibility
for memory handling to where it belongs, away from the programmer and to
the run-time system.
Whether the Fortran standard will eliminate the undefined state is a
different matter since backward compatability crops up and the above
solution is safe but not fully backward compatible.

Cheers,
WWS
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Werner W Schulz                                                     |
| Dept of Chemistry                  email:     [log in to unmask]       |
| University of Cambridge            Phone:     (+44) (0)1223 336 502 |
| Lensfield Road                     Secretary:          1223 336 338 |
| Cambridge CB2 1EW                  Fax:                1223 336 536 |
| United Kingdom                     WWW:                             |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------



%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

December 2023
February 2023
November 2022
September 2022
February 2022
January 2022
June 2021
November 2020
September 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
December 2019
October 2019
September 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
June 2015
April 2015
March 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
August 2014
July 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
October 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager