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Work-Out

From:

Lyn Richards Wool & Pete Smith <[log in to unmask]>

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[log in to unmask][log in to unmask] 5179 96 21_Facsimile says it all11_John [log in to unmask], 5 Mar 1997 10:05:23 +0000456_us-ascii [This is a 'plain text' facsimile (best view in a monospaced font) of the
front and back - the most prominent two of six panels - of gatefold leaflet
I have just received in a mailing. Members of this list should find it of
interest for a variety of reasons.]

--------
[Front:]
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y and
the
new
millenium

What is the state of poetry today?
r
What new energies should it be
evoking? [...]47_5Mar199710:05:[log in to unmask] 5276 29 19_Literal performance15_Francis [log in to unmask], 5 Mar 1997 11:34:39 +0100360_us-ascii Beyond Barthes and the empire of language:

"Ce livre-ci proteste: que le donne n'est pas un texte, qu'il y a en lui
une epaisseur, ou plutot une difference, constitutive, qui n'est pas a
lire, mais a voir; que cette difference, et la mobilite immobile qui la
revele, est ce qui ne cesse de s'oublier dans le signifier." [...]39_5Mar199711:34:[log in to unmask] 5306 22 29_Re: "eating the cubed orange"14_F.A. [log in to unmask], 5 Mar 1997 12:03:35 +0000 (GMT)341_US-ASCII Dear Allen,

I look forward to more of your thoughts on this. I have long had a
problem with Barrett's characterisation of Silliman as ultimate
non-narrative, when the experience of reading it FEELS so narrative, ie a
series of observations which could easily be linearly recorded even if
they're not.

Fiona45_5Mar199712:03:35+0000(GMT)[log in to unmask] 5329 66 35_Re: Oranges are not the only copies10_cris [log in to unmask], 5 Mar 1997 19:50:53 +0000685_us-ascii Hi, good to see this thread developing.

I'm just as keen on other contemporary
models from music / sound composition.
Agreed, the oldies but goodies die hard,
but what are the implications for syntax
and language composition of the mis-named
'free music' - let's say Derek Bailey
playing along to jungle on the radio
in his kitchen, or Lee Perry's dub,
or John Butcher and Evan Parker and Peter
Brotzmann's sax improvisations or AMM and
Jim O'Rourke, or Pauline Oliveros' Deep
Listening Band,
or Ornette Coleman's harmelodics,
or Saynho Namchilak overtones and Shelley
Hirsch's rapid dialectical shifts,
or Iva Bittova [...]43_5Mar199719:50:[log in to unmask] 5396 30 22_Re: arbitrary-aleatory11_Ken [log in to unmask] Mar 97 13:48:03 EST583_- I too had a problem with Allen Fisher's provocative and interesting paper on
narrative at "Assembling Alternatives" at UNH last year. My problem has to do
with how far you can stretch a definition before it ceases to become useful. (ie
reaches the catastrophe point & snaps!) In this case, if "narrative" is not
time-based then what in hell is it? (similar arguments re "language" in the
Fiona/John C thread elsewhere: if "everything" is "language" then "language" has
no meaning as a concept) [...][log in to unmask] 5427 23 8_Na razie16_Joanna [log in to unmask], 5 Mar 1997 20:15:22 GMT+1358_- Dear friends

I know, signing off before I've said a word...Limitations on the
amount of time I can spend at this terminal (hour a week max) mean
that I simply can't keepEmsáw

Date:

Mon, 08 Dec 1997 19:46:51 -0800

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Hello list: on the premise that my read through Ira's WIP arrived on
your screen in the same scrabble-bag in which it reached mine, here's an
attempted reparation.  (Given that Ira felt it worth posting it seems
worth posting right.  It's a response to the 7 parts of the work on the
Snakeskin pages - so much thanks to that space/editor.)  I'll cling as
close as I can to that left margin, folks.
THE OUT KNOWING

1. apass
as power rushes body
	parts released
salvation is practice?

2. rscu
Blake seeks sanctuaries
	green bit charity

3. hashha
Battle heaven ecstatic reader
	flawed pious rebel
in languagethought Milton's

4. bawgrip
conceal dissent never
try a public play
act a little will
find his face tide

5. goladen
happy new worrying
	so each form remain

6. pyg
place totems how you like
English a classical reject
least like it seem like

7. asamam
thrive in twos?
best soul
	hardens
first able
	second curse
God sent
	the soldier


If this one doesn't work: it's available on request to the insatiably
curious.  (Discounting the titles: lines 2,5,7,14,20,22 & 24 should be
indented: wow didn't know I was that obsessive!!) 
okbye, Pete.


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