Thank you,
I did consider all of the various Templar, Teutonic and such like
orders, but these were all founded, as I understand it, on beating up
the infidel, converting by the sword point and other ways of the
warrior. I think that the Templars were actually banned in about 1320
in England?.
I will certainly look for the Rose (was it David of Scotland that
received it, he was certainly in with the pope at the time!)
Anyway thanks again and any more suggestions would be greatfully
received.
David Debono
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Subject: Re: Monks and awards
Author: medieval-religion-request ([log in to unmask]) at
internet-mime
Date: 05/09/96 15:56
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996 [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> I wonder if anyone can help, I am David Debono, not a historian or
> such like but am very interested in medieval History, about time I
> came out of the darkness and announced myself I suppose.
>
> But to the question, I have been asked if there wsa any sort of
> award/recognition given to Monks or Brothers in the period 1300-1400
> or so that would have been the equivalent of a "Garter Knight" or some
> such, I appreciate that most of the orders at the time were noted for
> their dicipline, not owning property and so on, but there must, I
> would have thought, been a form of recognition, by the pope or
> whatever for good service?.
>
> I hope that makes some sort of sense and any thoughts greatly
> appreciated.
>
> David Debono
>You might want to look into the history of the Golden Rose, which was
conferred once yearly by the Pope on the Sunday that fell in Mid-Lent on
some Christian noted for outstanding piety and defence of the faith. It
could be given to a secular ruler or a churchman. I am not particularly
well-informed about this custom; everything I know comes from an
unreferenced footnote in a history of Scotland (a Scottish king of once
received the Rose). A query to the nearest R.C. diocesan or archdiocesan
library/registry/information service might be a good way to start.
Other than this, what about the religious orders of knighthood--the
Templars and Knights of St John, the various Spanish orders, and the
Teutonic Knights?
John Parsons
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