On Sat, 18 May 1996, Harriet Sonne wrote:
>
> My question is - Was the gap between canonists, like Gratian and
> theologians, like Hugh of St.Victor and later, Peter Lombard, so
> intensely heated (I know that Gratian considered marriage valid only if
> consummated and that Hugh of St.Victor and P.Lombard considered "consent"
> the primary requirement) that the Church was forced to propogandize or
> excert their views on the issue of "consent" which in turn supported the
> model of the holy couple as the "ideal marriage"? I'm afraid this is not
> my area - and I'm not certain to what extent this dispute or debate
> manifested itself? Is there any evidence which discusses this? One of the
> reasons why I ask this is that the illustrations of marriage accompanying
> the 13th century texts of Gration's laws shows couples standing before
> the priest...
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions on the extent or degree of the 12th c. dispute
> would be appreciated.
>
> Harriet Sonne
>
>
I shall look up some references on this issue and post them later but I
suspect that if you look at any of G. Duby's or J. Brundage's books on
marriage they will discuss this. It was most definitely a heated
debate. However, what you are seeing in the art I don't think is so much
propaganda as assertion. Many people simply could not accept the view
that consummation was necessary to marriage because this would mean that
Mary and Joseph were not married as the Church held that their marriage
was never consummated. Thus, if one accepts the consummation view, not
only would Mary and Joseph not have had the "ideal" marriage, but they
would not have had a "real" marriage.
Erin Copenbarger
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