Hi Barry I found this is a shorter poem in Saroyan's interesting book
thanks P quite a challenging style for this oldster -fun
eatc.
On 27/01/2020 22:34, Barry Alpert wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> I can imagine a visual and/or sound poet presenting the least visible/audible trace still recognizable as a letter in a human alphabet as the most minimal poem possible.
>
> Barry
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:04:58 +0000, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Barry
>>
>> eatc.
>>
>> also looks pretty short had not seen this -
>>
>> On 25/01/2020 03:50, Barry Alpert wrote:
>>> Since Ezra Pound's formulation "Dichten=Condensare" took up residence in my brain shortly after I thought I understood it more than 50 years ago, I've never completed a poem shorter than 6 words. So I was in fact jealous when Doug showed us his 3 word poem. I didn't want to let this discussion end without presenting Aram Saroyan's still controversial 5 letter poem:
>>>
>>>
>>> eyeye
>>>
>>>
>>> within his 1966 book "works":
>>>
>>> http://cuneiformpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Works-Saroyan-Complete.pdf
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:03:09 +1100, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>>> Ah, I had not thought, Doug, of wind (pron. wined). You can understand, in
>>>> these firey regions why my first inclination is to think downwind.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 3:22 am, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That’s fine, Bill. I don’t do this kind of thing a lot, but have seen
>>>>> there try it, & these words come to mind with the middle word working as
>>>>> verb & noun, & suggestive, at least to me. Patrick’s little joke is a fun
>>>>> little game with it, & that’s fine too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess that sometimes one wants (I want) to see how much weight a few
>>>>> words might have: Pound’s (& others’) dictum that poetry be as concentrated
>>>>> as possible? Admittedly, the image of stars winding down may not be that
>>>>> meaningful, but my SF mind liked it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I have looked at this over a few days now, Doug and still I am not
>>>>> finding
>>>>>> whatever you and others appear to. The bald words expected to carry the
>>>>>> weight of lines do not spark anything for me. Yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 4:27 am, Patrick McManus <
>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> win
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> star
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> haha P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/01/2020 16:57, Douglas Barbour wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks Sheila, Patrick, Andrew.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for that last, well…. But I am intrigued by what a few words can do
>>>>>>> more of, sort of…
>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2020, at 1:48 AM, Andrew Burke <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Now, write a paragraph on each."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 18:30, Patrick McManus <
>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> spaced out feel here -like it thanks P can see variations !!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2020 18:31, Douglas Barbour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wind
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> stars
>>>>> Douglas Barbour
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations
>>>>> 2 (UofAPress).
>>>>> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>>>>> Listen. If (UofAPress):
>>>>>
>>>>> Done in by creation itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean the gods. Not us. Well us too.
>>>>> The gods moved into books. Who wrote the books?
>>>>> We wrote the books. In whose dream, then are we dreaming?
>>>>>
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