Hi Suw,
I'm sorry if it seemed like I was casting blame. I didn't mean to imply that it was a deliberate slight or to call you out for it in particular. It's more that I think the forces -- reputation and the structure of acquaintanceship networks -- are at work in the dearth of female expert voices in stories and in our discussion of that problem.
Best,
Sedeer
On 08-Mar-19 11:09, Suw Charman-Anderson wrote:
> Hi Sedeer,
>
> Thanks for linking to Adrienne LaFrance's article, and reminding us that
> she was his inspiration. I just remembered Ed's article because I know him
> better than I know Adrienne (ie, slightly, vs not at all ;) ). So it's not
> a deliberate slight, but a function of the shape of my acquaintanceship
> network.
>
> Suw
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> On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 08:39, Sedeer el-Showk <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is an important topic, and it's great that we're discussing it more.
> > But it's unfortunate to see Ed Yong consistently credited for starting this
> > discussion when, as he states in last year's article, he was inspired by
> > and repeating the work of his female colleague, Adrienne LaFrance. (He even
> > links to her piece, which was published two years before his:
> > https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/gender-diversity-journalism/463023/).
> > There's a distressing irony in the fact that it took a male voice to make
> > us notice a female's work on this subject. I was guilty of this myself
> > until Maryn McKenna pointed it out.
> >
> > I think it would be good for us to start citing Adrienne LaFrance and
> > crediting her with launching the discussion.
> >
> > Best,
> > Sedeer
> >
> > On 07-Mar-19 14:50, Marianne G wrote:
> > > Hi Suw,
> > >
> > > Great to hear your talking about this. Like you, Ed's article has
> > prompted
> > > me to follow the number of female contributors quoted in the news pages
> > of
> > > The Lancet (World Report, for those of you who are unfamiliar), but I'd
> > > love to hear what other tools are available, other considerations when
> > > reporting about women.
> > >
> > > Is your talk going to be public/will you share the feedback you've
> > received
> > > from the mailing list?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marianne
> > >
> > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 09:59, Suw Charman-Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm giving a talk in a few weeks on gender diversity in journalism,
> > > > running through the stats, what journalist are doing to increase the
> > number
> > > > of expert female voices in their stories, and what can be done from a
> > > > hiring point of view. I'm away of Ed Yong's great piece from last year:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/02/i-spent-two-years-trying-to-fix-the-gender-imbalance-in-my-stories/552404/
> > > >
> > > > And I was just wondering what measures other folks take to increase the
> > > > number of female voices, and to make sure that women aren't portrayed
> > as
> > > > victims (as they mostly are in news media).
> > > >
> > > > I'd love your thoughts on the matter!
> > > >
> > > > Suw
> > > >
> > > >
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