In case anyone is interested in this old thread:
http://feconnect.sfa.bis.gov.uk/forums/topic/btec-nqf-level-12-achievement/
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From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott
Sent: 24 September 2018 17:32
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Hi Jake
We treat in the same way as you - exactly like a GCSE - grade reflects the level, no issues at audit either
On 24 Sep 2018, at 17:12, Jake Meechan <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
As far as I am aware the BTEC Firsts are the same as GCSE which is a Level 1 / 2 qualification and 9-1 all count as a pass
We checked on this a year or so ago and were told as the learning aim is for a L1 /2 qualification as long as you record as L1P it is fine. The Auditors go by learning aims so no reason for a Level 1 Pass not to be recorded as a pass. Wrell that’s what we have been doing for a while with no complaimts☺
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vicky Buckle
Sent: 24 September 2018 16:51
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
We put them down as fail.
You cannot put a pass for a level two if they have only passed at level 1.
The auditors would have a field day
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Mandy Ogden
Sent: 24 September 2018 16:39
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Are you sure about that – they haven’t achieved at the level that they were enrolled to – we have always put them down as partial achievement against the level 2 and not counted them against the overall achievement and pass rate.
The way I understand it is, that the qual aim is for level 2 (not level 1 and 2), and the learners have achieved at Level 1, therefore cannot be a pass. I would be very interested to know how you can count them as achievers (every pass counts here)!!
Mandy
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jackie Talbot
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Thank you
Jackie
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott
Sent: 24 September 2018 10:33
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Hi Jackie
They count as Achievers against the level 2 in Proachieve and are included in the overall Achievement and Pass rates.
I think an Ofsted inspector would want a break down by L1 and L2 achievers – it’s the same learning aim for both.
Regards
Lorna
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Jackie Talbot
Sent: 24 September 2018 10:20
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Out of interest would the L1 Pass count towards overall pass rates on this qualification?
Thanks
Jackie
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott
Sent: 24 September 2018 10:04
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
No probs, actually appendix Q (not 2!) – all recorded as outcome 1 and grade distinguishes level (bit like GCSEs)
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Sharon Collier
Sent: 24 September 2018 09:59
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Thanks Lorna and everyone for their replies. Much appreciated
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott
Sent: 24 September 2018 09:58
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Hi Sharon
This is from appendix 2 of the ILR guidance:
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Regards
Lorna
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott
Sent: 24 September 2018 09:55
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Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Hi Sharon
There are a range of grades for these mixed levels in ILR:
L1 for the Level 1 Pass
L2PP for Level 2 Pass
L2DM for Level 2 Distinction Merit
Generally the Level 2 pass has a double grade and the Level 1 just the single grade
Regards
Lorna
From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Sharon Collier
Sent: 24 September 2018 09:49
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Subject: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level
Hi All
Looking for some advice.
If you have a student enrolled to a BTEC qual which can be achieved at more than one level do you record it as a pass or a fail if they are enrolled to the higher level but only achieve the lower level.
For example, we have a student enrolled to PEARSON EDEXCEL Level 2 FIRST EXTENDED CERTIFICATE IN INFORMATION & CREATIVE TECHNOLOGY, but he has only achieved at Level 1. He will get a L1 certificate so can we record this as a pass/overall achieved or would it be a fail as he hasn’t reached the level 2 which he was enrolled to.
Thanks in advance
Sharon
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