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Subject:

AW: [DCUB] Status of all issues related to ranges

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"Neubert, Joachim" <[log in to unmask]>

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DCMI Usage Board <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:57:36 +0000

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Thank you so much, Tom, for your phantastic work sorting out all these issues!

Cheers, Joachim

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: DCMI Usage Board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von
> Thomas Baker
> Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Juli 2018 08:11
> An: [log in to unmask]
> Betreff: [DCUB] Status of all issues related to ranges
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> This review covers all remaining issues related to ISO 15836 that I see:
> 
> Key issue with multiple dimensions:
> -- 43. Coining and applying dcam:rangeIncludes
> 
> Almost done? Just vote.
> -- 22. Comment and examples for dct:language
> -- 23. Literal example for dct:coverage
> -- 30. Literal value for dct:rights
> -- 42. What should metadata creators do when...
> 
> Nearing completion?
> -- 25. Comments for dct:creator
> -- 26. Literal comments for dct:format
> -- 29. Pointer to User Guide in dct:relation
> 
> More work/discussion required?
> -- 28. Definition of dct:related
> -- 31. Comment for dct:rightsHolder
> 
> Tom
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 43. Coining and applying dcam:rangeIncludes
> 
>     Issue 32: "Broken ranges? [3] and "Issue 42: Recommended practice, when
>     non-literal values are not available" [5] generated some great discussion,
>     covering among other things the history of how `rdfs:domain` and
>     `rdfs:range` ended up being defined as they currently are.  The issue was
>     also discussed in the June 26 telecon.  It looks like we have converged on
>     the following approach:
> 
>     * Coin `http://purl.org/dc/dcam/rangeIncludes`, e.g., as defined in the
>       current ISO draft:
> 
>         Class of which a value described by the term may be an instance.
> 
>     * Coin `http://purl.org/dc/dcam/domainIncludes`:
> 
>         Class of which a resource described by the term may be an instance.
> 
>     * Substitute `dcam:rangeIncludes` for `rdfs:range` (and
>       `dcam:domainIncludes` for `rdfs:domain`) for all properties _except for_
>       properties with a range of `rdfs:Literal` (which will continued to use
>       `rdfs:range`).
> 
>     Note that the definition of `dcam:rangeIncludes` proposed here is only
>     slightly different from that of `rdfs:range` ("class of which a valued
>     described by the term _is_ an instance").  For comparison, see the
>     Schema.org definitions [1,2].
> 
>     Note that the definitions of rangeIncludes and domainIncludes would be
>     included in ISO 15836, but as part of Section 3.1 ("Terms and
>     definitions"), where they would be defined in words only (i.e., no URI),
>     and not in Section 3.3 ("DCMI properties"), which lists properties of the
>     /terms/ namespace with their URIs.
> 
>     I have created a new issue (https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/43) in
>     which I split the problem into several aspects:
> 
>     * changing rdfs:range into rangeIncludes for properties that use non-literal
> values
>     * not changing rdfs:range rdfs:Literal
>     * definition of rangeIncludes based on current DCMIMT and ISO draft
>     * definition of rangeIncludes based on Schema.org
>     * definition of range used in current DCMIMT and ISO draft
> 
>     [1] https://meta.schema.org/rangeIncludes
>     [2] https://meta.schema.org/domainIncludes
>     [3] https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/32
>     [4] https://github.com/dcmi/usage/blob/master/minutes/2018/2018-06-
> 26.dcub-telecon-minutes.md
>     [5] https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/42
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 22. Comment and examples for dct:language - the ISO draft currently says:
> 
>     Note 1 to entry: Recommended practice is to use either a non-literal value
>     representing a language from a controlled vocabulary such as ISO 639-2 or
> ISO
>     639-3, or a literal value consisting of an IETF Best Current Practice
>     47 [BCP 47] language tag.
> 
>     EXAMPLES  http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/iso639-2/eng
> 		(English language in the Library of Congress vocabulary of ISO
> 639-2 languages)
> 	      http://iso639-3.sil.org/code/eng
> 		(English language in the SIL International vocabulary of ISO
> 639-3 languages)
> 	      en-US (BCP 47 tag for American English)
> 	      zh-Hant-HK (BCP 47 tag for Hong Kong Chinese in Traditional script)
> 	      http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb119308987 (English language
> in Rameau)
> 
>     This follows Osma's proposal, which has been upvoted by Osma, Tom, Karen,
> and Antoine.
>     A few more votes are needed for approval - see
>     https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/22#issuecomment-406253315
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 23. Literal example for dct:coverage
> 
>     Proposed:
> 
>         EXAMPLES    1700/1799
>                     Boston, MA
> 
>     Please vote/comment at:
>     https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/23#issuecomment-406355149
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 25. Comments for dct:creator
> 
>     The current ISO draft has the following comment for dct:creator:
> 
>         Recommended practice is to refer to the creator with an URI.  If no
>         such URI is available, it is acceptable to refer to the creator with a
>         literal, such as a name or label of the creator which indicates the
>         entity. Literals for personal names should be listed surname or family
>         name first, followed by forename or given name. When in doubt, give the
>         name as it appears, and do not invert.
> 
>     Please comment/vote, bearing in mind Joachim's preference not to
> encourage
>     the use of literals with `dct:creator`, but rather to point users with literals to
>     `http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator`.
> 
>     Comment/vote at
>     https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/25#issuecomment-406359726
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 26. Literal comments for dct:format
> 
>     The current ISO draft reads:
> 
> 	Note 1 to entry: Examples of dimensions include size and duration.
> 
> 	Note 2 to entry: Recommended practice is to use a controlled
> vocabulary
> 	such as the list of Internet Media Types [MIME].
> 
> 	EXAMPLES text/xml
> 		 4 kB
> 		 40 x 512 pixels
> 		 22 in.
> 
>     Please note @rguenther52 comment that the PREMIS ontology is removing
> the
>     assertion that premis:hasMedium is a subproperty of dcterms:medium. See:
>     https://github.com/PREMIS-OWL-Revision-Team/revise-premis-
> owl/issues/60
> 
>     Comment/vote at
>     https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/26#issuecomment-406362768
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 28. Definition of dct:related
> 
>     DCMI Metadata Terms defines both dce:relation and dct:relation
>     with the following definition and comment:
> 
>         A related resource.
> 
>         Recommended best practice is to identify the related resource by means
>         of a string conforming to a formal identification system.
> 
>     The current ISO draft proposes a different definition, a slightly different
>     comment, and a second comment:
> 
>         A reference to a related resource.
> 
>         Best practice is to identify the related resource by means of an URI or
>         a string conforming to a formal identification system.
> 
>         Dublin Core Usage guide contains more information about various
>         relations and how they should be encoded.
> 
>     In https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/28, I split out three separate
>     issues:
>     -- Definition of dct:relation
>     -- Comment on "recommended practice"
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 29. Pointer to User Guide in dct:relation
> 
>     I had closed this issue because the latest ISO draft removed the examples.
>     However, I then noticed a second comment that had previously escaped my
>     attention:
> 
>         Note 2 to entry: Dublin Core Usage guide contains more information
>         about various relations and how they should be encoded.
> 
>     This points to the old User Guide [1], which was superseded 2005.
> 
>     I suggest we either drop the comment (and reference) entirely - or point to
>     the 2011 User Guide, which Paul and I will soon copy to a more citable
>     location.
> 
>     [1] http://www.dublincore.org/documents/usageguide/elements/
>     [2] http://wiki.dublincore.org/index.php/User_Guide/Creating_Metadata
> 
>     Comment/vote at
>     https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/29#issuecomment-406318810
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 30. Literal value for dct:rights
> 
>     The latest iteration of the ISO draft adds a second comment for
>     dct:rights which, when slightly edited to match the DCMIMT style,
>     reads:
> 
>         Note 2 to entry: Recommended practice is to refer to a rights
>         statement with a URI.  If this is not possible or feasible,
>         a short textual description of rights may be provided.
> 
>     Please comment/vote at:
>     https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/30#issuecomment-406321858
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 31. Comment for dct:rightsHolder
> 
>     There are several proposed wordings in this thread, so I cannot with
>     confidence make a counter-proposal.  I suggest we take the (slightly
>     edited) text of the current ISO draft as a starting point:
> 
>         Note 1 to entry: Recommended practice is to refer to the rights holder
>         with a name or URI.
> 
>     Note:
>     * in other issues, we have rejected the notion that a literal and a URI be
>       used in a single value
>     * Juha, Karen, and Osma seem to be saying that if the value is a literal,
>       it should not be limited to the name of the rights holder because RFC
>       3986 covers things like email addresses and telephone numbers.
> 
>     @aisaac Would you like to make a new proposal?
> 
>     Follow the thread at
>     https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/31#issuecomment-406339352
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 42. What should metadata creators do when a property has a non-literal range
> and
>     they have only literals?
> 
>     It looks to me like a rough consensus has emerged:
> 
>     * We recommend URIs as the first option and provide examples.
>     * In general, we allow (though not encourage) the use
>       of literal values.
>     * In the ISO standard, where needed, we provide usage recommendations,
>       especially to address common problems (e.g., "CC-BY" for Rights, "French"
>       for Language).
>     * In the non-normative Annex B to ISO 15836-2, page 27, we add a
> paragraph
>       or two briefly outlining the options for using literals with properties
>       with non-literal ranges -- directly as the object, with blank nodes, with
>       hash URIs -- and characterize the advantages and disadvantages of each
>       approach.
>     * In our message to the world about the outcome of this whole batch of
>       ISO-related decisions, we acknowledge, in addition to the above, that it
>       would not actually be incorrect to use `/elements/1.1/` properties but
>       that using just one namespace keeps down the complexity of the data
> model
>       and of queries.
> 
>     Do you agree?  Comment/vote at
>     https://github.com/dcmi/usage/issues/42#issuecomment-405961529
> 
> 
> --
> Tom Baker <[log in to unmask]>
> 
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