Dear all,
Not a text specialisst either..... Just a suggestion.
Perhaps the word 'homeopathy' is an anachronism, yet its main
principle goes back to antiquity:
Similia Similibus Curentur, the first ideas historically described by
Hypocrates, Galeno, Paracelsus
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9595750
So I wonder if the use of the word in the articles actually refers to
the above principle (similia similibus curentur) which is the essence
of Homeopathy rather than to Homeopathy per se as formed by Hahnemann
in the late 18th century.
Greetings!
Tania
Quoting "Andreas G. Heiss" <[log in to unmask]>:
> Dear Gerard Cheshire,
>
> You are offering no less than the solution for the Voynich
> manuscript. I am no linguist (as I guess neither of the list members
> are), so I wonder whether there is also some peer-reviewed
> publication of your work which would make the methodology
> "digestible" for us. This would furthermore document that other
> researchers were able to reproduce your surprising results.
> Unfortunately, I could not find such an article myself up to now.
> But as said, I am no linguist and do not know your specific journals.
>
> The basis for plant identification would be highly interesting to us
> archaeobotanists, as this is a crucial point for the understanding
> of the applications you suggest as translations.
>
> If I may cite the top of page 20:
> "On Spread 2. Left. Showing the deadly nightshade plant (Atropa
> belladonna) the first word is leta,
> which is Latin for kills or slays: i.e. to release life. The first
> phrase leta eo naus, therefore
> translates into 'deadly as food'. Note that the illustration of the
> plant is not botanically accurate,
> as it shows a single berry on the belladonna vine [sic!]. This is
> typical of the manuscript as a whole, as
> the author was more concerned with the medicinal parts of the plants
> than their exact anatomy."
>
> If neither known plant names nor accurate descriptions or drawings
> are given - how did you identify the plants? Exact identification of
> botanical taxa in historical written sources is often dreadfully
> difficult if not impossible, even in "regular" languages and books.
> So how did you succeed?
>
> Furthermore, I am highly curious how a manuscript allegedly from the
> 15th century might possibly refer to homeopathic remedies as you
> mention in the abstract (and several times in your paper).
> Homeopathy was invented roughly 400 years later...
>
> What is your motivation for posting your work in this group? Do you
> seek feedback?
>
> Just wondering...
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Andi
>
>
>
>
>
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> Von: The archaeobotany mailing list
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Gerard Cheshire
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 09:02
> An: [log in to unmask]
> Betreff: Medieval botany.
>
>
> Dear Archaeobotany members,
>
> For those of you interested in the human use of plants and their
> products during the Medieval, as medicinals, therapeutics, food
> ingredients and so on, there has been an interesting development,
> due to the translation of a 15th manuscript from the Mediterranean.
>
>
> In 2017 the writing system of the aforementioned manuscript was
> revealed to be proto-Romance: i.e. the ancestor to the modern
> Romance languages. In addition, it is written with a proto-Italic
> alphabet. It is the only known document of this kind and therefore
> has considerable linguistic and scientific importance.
>
> Two papers have been issued, which explain the writing system and
> translate a number of excerpts as examples. They can be freely
> downloaded from the LingBuzz website.
>
> 1. Linguistic Missing Links: http://ling.auf.net/lingbuzz/003737
> 2. Linguistically Dating and Locating MS408:
> http://ling.auf.net/lingbuzz/003808
>
> The manuscript has many illustrations of Mediterranean plant
> species, accompanied by text concerning their uses. Their are no
> plant names given, as they would have had various common names at
> that time, and the concept of scientific names was yet to arrive.
> Thus, the illustrations focus primarily on the useful parts of the
> plants. The draughtsmanship of the artist is also primitive, so it
> becomes a matter of deduction to identify each species by combining
> the visual and textual information.
>
> Regards,
> G. E. Cheshire,
> University of Bristol.
Soultana Maria Valamoti-Kapetanaki,
Associate Professor,
Dept of Archaeology,
School of History and Archaeology,
Aristotle University of Thessaloniki,
Greece
http://www.hist.auth.gr/en/content/valamoti-soultana-maria
http://iwgp-2013.web.auth.gr/
http://auth.academia.edu/SoultanaValamoti
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