O Guys,
You must read what is ironic and what is not ironic in my post.
I’m sorry, I’m still thinking that electronic media like emails reproduce intonations.
For more enlightenment please go to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6zCsaH3h2I
Of course that I think that all disciplines are free to think about all other disciplines, regarding scholarship, for instance, that should be common, or on the HE level that we call PhD.
I think that Ken’s work, for instance, is incredibly valuable on this matter (we share these concerns, at least since 2005, from my part, although we disagree in some matters).
However, like Martin have underlined, sometimes Form gets to interfere with Content…
I’ll be back to this soon
Best
Eduardo Corte-Real
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Associate Professor
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> No dia 21/03/2018, às 16:39, Ali Ilhan <[log in to unmask]> escreveu:
>
> Dear Eduardo,
>
> I have to agree with what Terry said. There are a bunch of people (actually
> much more than a bunch)in the academia whose only jobs are doing exactly
> what you are discussing against (e.g folks who work in education policy,
> sociology of higher education, education research, science and technology
> studies). There are many many good and informed discussions and research
> about how natural science or engineering phds should or should not be
> carried out in these “outsider” fields. So I don’t see why people outside
> arts cannot talk about doctorate education in arts and design. Of course,
> you have every right to disagree with what they have to say :)
>
> And whether we like it or not, in most higher education systems, art and
> design phds are late-comers to the system. Therefore, they have to confront
> the “newcomer’s dilemma”(i did not coin this term, it is from Charles Camic
> ,a well known sociologist of knowledge). That is,arts and design have to
> conform to the standarts erected by other disciplines while trying to show
> that they are indeed different. This is a difficult position, but also a
> necessary evil for every newcomer (there are numerous case studies on
> this). So I don’t think that we have the luxury and resources to isoloate
> ourselves. John Langrish had very mind opening articles about this, but I
> have to dig my archive.
>
> Warm wishes,
>
> Ali O. Ilhan, PhD
> OzU/Istanbul Institute of Design
>
>
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