Thanks, Philippe

What bothered me about the announcement was the strong implication that
these six disciplines covered all of design.

I wouldn't have been at all bothered had the announcement stated that these
particular specialties would be begathering together.

Note that the professionalization and need for formal governmental
recognition is truly required only when there are safety, health, or
economic concerns that impact society or citizens. Hence, architects (and
civil engineers who work with architects) need to be certified. The kinds
of design I represent do not need certification. (I am also an engineer,
but never bothered to become a registered engineer because neither circuit
design, computer systems design, nor programming - which is what I did --
do not require it. (We may have to certify programmers in this modern world
of incompetent programming that has major security, privacy, and economic
consequences.)

Most of the modern design groups do have professional societies, but often
not those of traditional design. Thus, many interaction designers belong to
the ACM, the Computer Science professional society. Others might belong to
other professional societies, none of which have the word "design" in the
title.

Engineering Design does have its own societies and national/international
conferences: why was it absent from the list?

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Design has become a complex field. It is probably the case that no single
organization or conference can represent all of it. Note that this is true
for other fileds, for example, engineering, social science, medicine.
Instead, there are multiple societies and specialized societies. Neither
the American Psychological Association nor the International Congress of
Psychology covers all psychologists.

We live in a complex world.

Don


On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Philippe Gauthier <
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> I would suggest that this division of the design field may originate from
> the fact that the WDS seemed first devised as a professional meeting in
> which the professional associations had to play a central role. In Quebec,
> and most probably in Canada, the six disciplines lined up for the event,
> are the fields that are regulated by professional corporations or benefit
> from the strongest membership. (With the notable absence of UXers who
> benefit from their own strong independent networks of institutions) In our
> part of the world (at least), there is quite a few orphan and emerging
> trends in design (service design, social design, system design,
> gamification, and the like) that still didn’t give rise to any large
> associative effort.
>
> But then, I bet that some of the organizers of the WDS would argue that
> the event they organize is the best opportunity to « put our fist on the
> table » (can we say that in english?) and show professional associations
> that they still have some catching up to do. I’m inclined to think that
> they could be right.
>
> Cheers !
>
> Philippe Gauthier, D. Sociologie
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