Hello Ken and everyone
I've not read the earlier postings and rushing here, since this is the beginning of term! And I don't have much to disagree with Ken.
But perhaps there's some sense that this can be quite true. This is not so much philosophical as a kind of anecdotal report of an experience
I have an old camera, a Leica II, which is prewar, and it has a collapsible lens and to be honest when you first look at it it may look odd and not that attractive.
But over the years I've used it and also collected parts an accessories that fit with it, and have experienced how well they come together, the precision with which they work together.
I suppose you can call that good design - they all work so well together. For instance it collapses and it is easy to bring about. if you have the orginal film canisters loaded with film, when you load it in and screw close the camera base plate, it engages the canister and opens up the sliding piece to reveal the film. Then there are filters and what not that fit nicely, that don't get in the way, and the accuracy and precision, and the self-timer, etc.
Also the way it the film loads into the daylight developing tank produced by Leitz...for development etc...
There's such a delight in the precision and harmony, one could also call all of that beautiful.
Consider again another bicycle, the Brompton folder. It's an odd looking bike, but when you see and experience the fold and see how it works so well etc, you delight at its "beauty".
So it may not be that because something is beautiful they become characterized as good design.
Rather because something that is very well design acquires that quality of being perceived, over time and use, as beautiful.
There are more elegant ways of putting across that relationship, I'm sure! -- perhaps in future...
The idea is that it's not that beauty makes something a good design. Rather that good design when experienced is experienced as an aesthetic event.
Jude
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Sorry Guys,
I was evidently misunderstood. From my side, the discussion ends here.
Have a nice year,
Eduardo
National Institute of Education (Singapore) http://www.nie.edu.sg
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