Dear all,
and Dear Ken Friedman,
the idea was to connect main dots of related questions (no
intentionality at all to overlook the so many and debatable issues
addressed by Turing).
The overall argument, was not so much about if we want to tell a
machine how to design, nor to debate the ethical issues underlying less
positive consequences as cyber crime, for example, but to understand how
much could we learn from playing such imitation game:
if we had to tell a machine to pretend to be a designer, what would we
say? would we know what to tell to the machine?
how much could we advance in design research by attempting to do so?
Could we write a progress report on this topic at the present?
unfortunately, I didn't receive Mike Sellers integral answer in my mail
box, but his reply to fragments of Carlos Pires' comments.
Therefore, I ask you if you could please forward Mike Sellers integral
answer to me? I would like very much to learn from his expertise.
As I'am surrounded by research colleagues from different areas, I
shared this discussion with them, and was informed of some advancements
regarding the Turing test, which was partially past last year, 2014,
during an experiment held in London, as the computer managed to convince
30% of the interrogators he was a teenage boy. They say, a complete
surpass is just a question of time...specially with the advancements
happening in several other research areas...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/09/a-computer-just-passed-the-turing-test-in-landmark-trial/
the complexity of design might presently represent a shadow to our
understanding, but I trust it can become a lovely blue sky.
Anyhow, design research developments will continue.
Attentively,
Sonia Vieira, PhD
Pos-doctoral research at INEGI, UPorto
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On 17.09.2015 17:11, Ken Friedman wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Sonia Viera compared the question “Can machines design?" to Alan
> Turing’s (1950) question, “Can machines think?” This is an intriguing
> question based on an interesting analogy. While Turing addressed
> issues that Sonia seems to have overlooked, it was an interesting
> comparison. Mike Sellers took Sonia’s point seriously, and he made a
> good reply. He points out that no machine in over six decades has yet
> managed to pass the Turing Test, a well known concept in computing
> and
> artificial intelligence. The issues in Mike’s reply neatly summarised
> many of the issues in this thread.
>
> Those who have never read Turing’s original article will find a copy
> in the “Teaching Documents” section of my Academia.edu page. It will
> be accessible through 12 midnight London time on Saturday, September
> 19, at which time I will delete it. Go to URL:
>
> https://swinburne.academia.edu/KenFriedman
>
> Ken
>
> --
>
> Reference
>
> Turing, A. M. 1950. "Computing Machinery and Intelligence." Mind,
> Vol. 59, No. 236 (Oct., 1950), pp. 433-460.
>
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