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Re: Design theory - do photographers design?

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Terence Love <[log in to unmask]>

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Dear Jude,

Thank you for your reply.

Yes, you are right. My aim as always is to identify situations that might
reveal insights into creating a better form of design theory that addresses
and resolves the mess of the current and previous ways that design activity
has been conceptualised. If we have any doubt about this mess then we can
ask how much we have moved forward  in developing an epistemologically
strong and coherent theory base since the 1963 UK design conference (Jones
and Thornley) - not much! 

The combination of posts by yourself and Robert Harland raised another such
potentially insightful situation.

You focused on your subjective experience when using a camera, and Robert
focused on creation and creativity as defining design.

I'm wondering whether these together reveal an underlying a problem in the
creation of design theory  due to designers perceiving the subjective their
internal processes specific to  'feeling and being creative' and then trying
to make those feelings about creativity the definition of design activity -
rather than making a definition of design activity that addresses all the
issues that need to be addressed whilst also including those subjective
internal processes of creativity as a potential part of design activity?

That is, do we unhelpfully conflate our personal sensations of creativity
and the rather different theory issues in making a useful and theoretically
coherent definition of  design activity?

Putting a research hat on, do we need to more clearly differentiate  between
making theories about the subjective experiences of personal acts of
creativity and the theories about design activity?

Best regards,
Terry


 

  





 

-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask]
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CHUA Soo Meng Jude
(GPL, PLS)
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2015 1:02 PM
To: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related
research in Design
Subject: [SPAM] RE: Design theory - do photographers design?

Do photographers design?

Ans: only if they shoot Leica.

Just joking.  But I agree with some of the points made here by Salu, and at
the same time sense that Terry has asked this question motivated by
important questions about what design is.

This is an exciting question, and I will try to share some of my ideas -
when I get some things out of the way.  Briefly though, if photography is
not the kind of activity which Flusser criticizes as "programmed", where the
camera shapes the picture taking, but rather something evaluative, where
choices are made, and practical principles are foregrounded, then it can be
design in an important ethical sense.  I have sensed this is true esp when I
shoot a rangefinder camera, on b/w film.

Jude

-----Original Message-----
From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related
research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salu
Ylirisku
Sent: Tuesday, 15 September, 2015 2:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Design theory - do photographers design?

Dear all, 

I would imagine that the question is provoked by a naïve idea of the
photographer as a mere point and shoot capturer of what already exists.
Photographers, however, are involved in the world in many ways both socially
and materially. And this involvement is typically intentional. So, I would
see photographing pretty much designing for the purposes that photographers
work for.

Kind regards,

Salu Ylirisku
Associate Professor
SDU Design, Denmark


National Institute of Education (Singapore) http://www.nie.edu.sg

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