Hi Jean
I changed the header. It was wrong from the beginning, sorry my fault.
Maeda being recognized as an artist or not does not change the argument. There are many types of artists.
I think i am talking about the field. How individual designers demonstrate it is another story. I agree and sadly the artist gets lost and not well represented on this list. That is my concern.
Freeing us from the cross section sounds interesting. I would prefer reinventing this and to emphasize the uniqueness of design as a third way. Though we draw on the two other fields constantly and denying this would be false.
Birger Sevaldson (PhD)
Professor at Institute of Design
Oslo School of Architecture and Design
Norway
Phone (0047) 9118 9544
www.birger-sevaldson.no
www.systemsorienteddesign.net
www.ocean-designresearch.net
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Subject: Re: a Cross paper
Hello Birger,
I haven’t read Maeda’s paper, I might do that later.
I just want to say that, as much as know about Maeda’s work, I wouldn’t say that he is an artist. I don’t think that having sensitivity or an aesthetical sense is enough (both qualities that he displays in his works and writings, at least those that I know) to be an artist in the sense we could give to the word since a century. It might have been enough in the early 20th century, when the romanticized vision of the artist was dominant.
Inquiry is not sufficient (why then philosophy is not there).
Feedback between thinking and doing is not specific to being an artist.
In the same way, I don’t see many designers sitting at the cross section. I mean : demonstrating that they ARE there. I see this more as a foundation myth that has faded with the end of arts/practice/crafts as a subject matter in design education (not only doing, but thinking about it).
And maybe it would free us to think that we are not sitting at the crossroads ? Or vice-versa, to reinvent what it means to be exactly there.
Best regards to those who are not away from their computer.
Jean
> Le 29 juil. 2015 à 14:48, Birger Sevaldson <[log in to unmask]> a écrit :
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> Hello friends
> In the wake of the discussions on the knowledge base of design i wanted to share this quote from John Maeda with you.
> Maeda is both a scientist and artist. Are not designers possitioned right in the wonderful cross section between both?
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> John Maeda:
> Art and science. To those who practice neither, they seem like polar opposites, one data-driven, the other driven by emotion. One dominated by technical introverts, the other by expressive eccentrics. For those of us involved in either field today (and many of us have a hand in both), we know that the similarities between how artists and scientists work far outweigh their stereotypical differences. Both are dedicated to asking the big questions placed before us: “What is true? Why does it matter? How can we move society forward?” Both search deeply, and often wanderingly, for these answers. We know that the scientist’s laboratory and the artist’s studio are two of the last places reserved for open-ended inquiry, for failure to be a welcome part of the process, for learning to occur by a continuous feedback loop between thinking and doing. (Maeda, 2013)
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> Maeda, J. (2013). Artists and Scientists: More Alike Than Different. Scientific American. Retrieved February 17, 2015, from http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2013/07/11/artists-and-scientists-more-alike-than-different/
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> Birger Sevaldson (PhD)
> Professor at Institute of Design
> Oslo School of Architecture and Design
> Norway
> Phone (0047) 9118 9544
> www.birger-sevaldson.no
> www.systemsorienteddesign.net
> www.ocean-designresearch.net
>
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