So glad this has tickled VAR-Lers as I'd hoped, even if in an unexpected direction. 
Any tickling is good tickling.

As for the beeb's standards, the Australian article was from BBC Worldwide, which is 
a quite separate beast (profit-making, international, not funded by the licence fee). 
Perhaps an interesting comparative analysis to be done on how the capitalist pursuit 
of internet traffic drives editorial standards ;)

Dave

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> On 6/05/2015 22:52, "Patrick, Peter L" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Adam (but probably go further...)
>>
>> This might be more a topic for ADS-L but I am not willing to accept most
>> of the ones in this article as Australian in origin -
>> either the ones that are wildly common in everyday British English and
>> seem likely to have been so for a long time,
>> or those that I grew up with as American slang (eg "crash") and have
>> never remotely associated with Oz. How they
>> would have disseminated so widely by the early 1970s at latest, in an era
>> with no Aussie TV etc in the US, etc, is beyond me...
>>
>> I suspect there is a strong ideological component in this claiming of
>> origins, which runs something like this:
>>
>> The English are by definition all posh compared to Australians
>> Thus British English vernacular cannot be authentic
>> Anything vernacular found in Australia must therefore be Australian in
>> origin
>>
>> The focus mainly seems to be on reclaiming from the Brits, as nearly all
>> the items said to "have made their way into global English"
>> are noticeably absent from US usage and sound very non-American (though I
>> can't say about Canada which of course has many
>> more Briticisms) to me. There may be a similar ideology aimed at US usage
>> but it doesn't surface much here.
>>
>> Of course the article fudges tremendously by first saying "phrases
>> derived from or chiefly used in Australian English ", and then going
>> on to claim as "Australian" any items which are simply in common use down
>> under. Since the OED entries make no reference to frequency
>> to begin with, there is not even an argument that they are in MORE common
>> use in OZ than the UK, much less that they originate from Oz.
>>
>> Pretty poor from the Beeb. Will the election coverage later this week be
>> equally unreliable?...
>> 	-p-
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Variationist List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam
>> Schembri
>> Sent: 06 May 2015 12:02
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Court says Skype's name is too similar to Sky's
>>
>> Well, while we’re on the topic of the BBC website, Dave, I don’t really
>> buy this:
>>
>> http://www.test.bbc.com/culture/story/20150427-pervs-greenies-and-ratbags
>>
>> As an Australian who lived in London for nearly five years, it’s quite
>> clear where we Australians got ‘mate’ and ‘bloody’ from. I don’t buy that
>> some of the others are Australian: ‘selfie’ may have first been recorded
>> in Australia, but I suspect it was created independently in multiple
>> parts of the English speaking world.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adam
>>
>>
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>>
>> On 6/05/2015 20:41, "Dave Sayers" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought this might tickle VAR-Lers:
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32593735
>>>
>>> Dave
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