Classifying contemporary ANYTHING is always tricky, of course, since we
lack any sort of critical distance from the work we're trying to put in
tidy little boxes. Speaking from a design history perspective with its
foundations in art history and museum studies, the convenience of
establishing "periods of history" rests in identifying common stylistic
conventions (e.g. Art Nouveau), shared philosophical foundations that carry
aesthetic/production implications (e.g. Arts & Crafts, Bauhaus, Futurism)
and/or all of the above in reaction against a dominant
aesthetic/social/political movement (e.g. Dada, Constructivism,
post-modernism). Most of these periods are shared among our various design,
architecture, and art histories (albeit with some important points of
divergence) and generally accepted since we've had enough of that important
critical distance from them to form some consensus.
I wanted to share an interesting perspective on contemporary design that
I've recently spent some time researching:
In his most recent position at the Indianapolis Museum of Art (now retired
from IMA and consulting), where he formed a world-class design collection
essentially from the ground up, curator R. Craig Miller identified three
concurrent movements in contemporary (1985 to present) design: Modernism,
Expressionism, and Postmodernism. Sounds familiar, right? Notably, he
hasn't declared contemporary design something new in and of itself ("We're
now in the XYZ period..."), but rather recognized that contemporary and
even cutting-edge designers are continuing aesthetic/philosophical
traditions of periods that have existed in some cases for over a century,
and pushing those movements on to new, exciting innovations.
You could argue the particulars -- is Jonathan Ive a modernist in the same
'grand tradition' as Modernism-with-a-capital-M? Or something else, a
"neo-modernist" of some sort, with shared aesthetics but a different angle?
Tord Boontje: expressionist? "neo-expressionist"? something else?
But particulars aside, I think the approach has great merit -- if our egos
can stand the notion that we aren't all beautiful unique snowflakes and
special unicorns breaking new ground with every project.
Miller's collecting at IMA focused mainly on industrial design (furniture,
consumer goods, electronics), but this approach can easily be applied to
graphic design, including digital design; I'd stick my neck out and say
that, in this regard, "digital design" is too wide a classification to be
useful from a looking-back-in-history sense. Qualities of multiple
"periods" -- Modernism, Expressionism, and Postmodernism certainly among
them -- can be found within contemporary digital design, whether it be a
superflat app interface or a designer covering every surface in
hand-rendered type and texture.
Loving this thread, keep it coming!
Curt Lund
University of Minnesota
> On May 22, 2015, at 4:23 AM, Stephen B Allard <[log in to unmask]>
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> Curious to know what this list's opinion is with regard to the identity
and characteristics of the current period we are today in Design's
history. I am preparing a series of lectures that will attempt to explain
where design is today and what are its characteristics now in 2015. I am
wondering if this list and its members could provide some insights,
resources and movements beyond Memphis, Post-Modernism, Deconstructivism
and Neo-Futurism. Are there any codified movements beyond these?
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 07:44:41 -0500
> From: Margolin Victor <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: videos
>
> Dear friends:
>
> It seems that the video links did not come through in my previous post.
> Try these.
>
> Victor
>
> Animation
>
> https://youtu.be/Z8Z4EcVvAgA
>
> Documentary
>
> https://youtu.be/Kxyy0THLfuI
>
> Victor Margolin
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> University of Illinois, Chicago
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 09:17:03 -0400
> From: Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What period of design history are we currently in?
>
> > On May 22, 2015, at 4:23 AM, Stephen B Allard <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Curious to know what this list's opinion is with regard to the identity
> and characteristics of the current period we are today in Design's
> history. I am preparing a series of lectures that will attempt to explain
> where design is today and what are its characteristics now in 2015. I am
> wondering if this list and its members could provide some insights,
> resources and movements beyond Memphis, Post-Modernism, Deconstructivism
> and Neo-Futurism. Are there any codified movements beyond these?
>
>
> Stephen,
>
> Arthur Danto wrote about "the end of art" in the mid '80s. By that, he
> didn't mean that there would be no art, just that art movements as we had
> come to assume were no longer. As usual, design lagged behind the art world
> by about fifteen years. Certainly, in the late '80s and early '90s, the
> graphic design world was acutely aware of movements and formal tribes. Now
> it all seems to be a big buffet.
>
> Maybe we just need perspective. Much of what appears to be chaos is a
> matter of scale: weather and animal populations, for instance, make sense
> in a very short term and in a very long term but are vague at best in a
> medium view. Perhaps something will emerge in retrospect but identification
> of a zeitgeist always involves ignoring a multitude of counter examples and
> I suspect that a design zeitgeist for the present would require even more
> willful ignorance.
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> Gunnar Swanson
> East Carolina University
> graphic design program
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 09:42:25 -0400
> From: cameron tonkinwise <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Literature on Anthropology of Sharing Economy
>
> Abhigyan
> The Sharing Economy is the topic of a (critical) forthcoming issue of
> _Design Philosophy Papers_
>
> See the work of Russell Belk:
> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0148296313003366
> http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/612649
> http://ann.sagepub.com/content/611/1/126.short
>
> Yochai Benkler:
> http://benkler.org/SharingNicely.html
>
> The Great Tranistion Initiative:
> http://www.greattransition.org/publication/debating-the-sharing-economy
>
> Some of my contributions:
>
> https://www.academia.edu/7547283/_Sharing_you_can_Believe_in_The_Awkward_Potential_within_Sharing_Economy_Encounters_
>
> https://www.academia.edu/1213957/Sharing_Trust_Tasteful_Designs_of_Social_Systems
>
> There is a conference near you shortly:
> http://www.uu.nl/en/IWSE2015/programme
>
> Cameron
>
> > I find articles discussing ‘sharing’ in context of foraging (hunters and
> gatherers) and agricultural societies but I am finding it hard to locate
> anthropological work within the emerging debate on ‘Sharing Economy’. If
> you know of theoretical articles or case-studies from anthropology
> discussing Sharing Economy then please pass on the information. I will
> greatly appreciate your help. Further, any information about designers and
> researchers also working on the topic of sharing would be of a great help.
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 09:55:05 -0400
> From: cameron tonkinwise <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What period of design history are we currently in?
>
> Stephen,
> Some unhelpful push back:
>
> 1: Why name? Who names? For who? Who gets to say what is in or out?
>
> 2: Why must there be only one identity? Perhaps we are at last beyond the
> period of one dominant history for the entire world. (See for example Nancy
> and Ranciere -
> http://www.sunypress.edu/p-4391-the-creation-of-the-world-or-gl.aspx
> https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/the-names-of-history )
>
> 3: Latour may argue that _We have never been Modern_
> http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674948396
> but some important design theorists argue that we have never been anything
> other than modernist.
>
> See Jan Michl's polemic:
> http://janmichl.com/eng.apartheid.html
>
> And with reference to the continued colonialist globalization of
> unsustainable design see:
> Kalantidou and Fry's
>
> http://www.taylorandfrancis.com/articles/editors_of_design_in_the_borderlands_eleni_kalantidou_tony_fry_discuss_thei/
>
> I hope you might be able to assign Fry, Dilnot and Stewart's important new
> book on Design History:
>
> http://www.bloomsbury.com/us/design-and-the-question-of-history-9781472521606/
>
> Cameron
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2015, at 4:23 AM, Stephen B Allard wrote:
>
> > Curious to know what this list's opinion is with regard to the identity
> and characteristics of the current period we are today in Design's history.
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 14:45:53 +0000
> From: Erik Von Bohemia <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Jobs: 2x Lecturer/Senior Lecturer on Design Innovation/Management
>
> Dear list members, [apologies for cross-postings]
>
> Loughborough University London's Institute for Design Innovation is
> looking to attract an outstanding colleague to be a part of this exciting
> new post-graduate campus development on the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park
> http://www.lborolondon.ac.uk/ . We are seeking someone with an interest
> in Design Management, Transformational Design, Design Innovation, Design
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> or equivalent experience, a research profile including
> presenting/publishing internationally and will have the potential to
> deliver an innovative research programme and to contribute to the
> development and delivery of the taught Masters programmes which will
> commence in September 2015. The successful candidate will also have
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> Interviews will be held on 25/26 June 2015 in Loughborough
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 15:06:10 +0000
> From: Katherine J Hepworth <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What period of design history are we currently in?
>
> Hello Stephen and all
>
> While it is unclear what future observers will call this period, here are
> my anecdotal observations about trends in communication design lately.
>
>
> * Historicist revival, with particular emphasis on 1970s color palettes
> * Faceted illustration, layout, branding, and identities
> * High quality post-millenial sans serif typefaces
> * Parallax scrolling and too much query everywhere
> * ‘Outsider design’ aesthetic, inspired by the explosion of highly
> accessible visual creation tools, and the success some people have had with
> them (Youtube stars etc)
>
> I hope this is helpful. Other designers on the list - please add to this
> if you see other things going on in your specialization and your part of
> the world.
>
> Katherine Hepworth
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 17:13:30 +0100
> From: Jonathan Bishop <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> Ken,
>
> Why are you always using this list to promote your efforts and yet to
> criticise those of others?
>
> It is as if you think you have more right to publicity than others in the
> same field as you.
>
> How do we know your journal is not a fake one? You seem to think anyone who
> posts a CFP that isn't for a publication you have heard of is fake. I
> haven't heard of your journal before so how can I know it's not fake?
>
> Jonathan Bishop
>
> On Friday, 22 May 2015, Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > Thanks so much for the kind messages I have been getting on the launch of
> > the new journal. There were several requests for a .pdf version.
> >
> > You will find attached a .pdf version of the CFP for 设计 She Ji. The
> > Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation.
> >
> > The .pdf also shows you our first cover.
> >
> > Several people have asked whether we welcome article proposals in advance
> > of full submissions. We do indeed. Please send queries to our managing
> > editor, Dr. Jin Ma at
> >
> > [log in to unmask] <javascript:;>
> >
> > or to me at
> >
> > [log in to unmask] <javascript:;>
> >
> > We are eager to publish articles in any of the seven types listed in the
> > CFP. We welcome fully peer-reviewed research articles, literature review
> > articles, and case studies. We also seek discussion articles and
> commentary
> > pieces that are not subject to peer review. These include interviews,
> > opinion leader commentary, and dialogues. In this latter type of article,
> > we are open to new and innovative formats and ideas.
> >
> > Warm wishes,
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | Editor-in-Chief | 设计 She Ji. The
> > Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation | Published by Elsevier in
> > Cooperation with Tongji University Press | Launching in 2015
> >
> > Chair Professor of Design Innovation Studies | College of Design and
> > Innovation | Tongji University | Shanghai, China ||| University
> > Distinguished Professor | Centre for Design Innovation | Swinburne
> > University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 16:20:44 +0000
> From: Jed Looker <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What period of design history are we currently in?
>
> Speaking purely from personal observation as a practicing designer, future
> academics may consider this period of design to be the beginning of the
> digital era.
>
>
> --
> Jed Looker
> MDes Candidate
>
> School of Industrial Design
> Carleton University
> 613 715 1025
> id.carleton.ca<http://id.carleton.ca>
>
> On May 22, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Katherine J Hepworth <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Hello Stephen and all
>
> While it is unclear what future observers will call this period, here are
> my anecdotal observations about trends in communication design lately.
>
>
> * Historicist revival, with particular emphasis on 1970s color palettes
> * Faceted illustration, layout, branding, and identities
> * High quality post-millenial sans serif typefaces
> * Parallax scrolling and too much query everywhere
> * ‘Outsider design’ aesthetic, inspired by the explosion of highly
> accessible visual creation tools, and the success some people have had with
> them (Youtube stars etc)
>
> I hope this is helpful. Other designers on the list - please add to this
> if you see other things going on in your specialization and your part of
> the world.
>
> Katherine Hepworth
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 12:36:44 -0400
> From: Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What period of design history are we currently in?
>
> > On May 22, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Jed Looker <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Speaking purely from personal observation as a practicing designer,
> future academics may consider this period of design to be the beginning of
> the digital era.
>
>
> Jed,
>
> Does "the digital era" have any attributes other than the use of digital
> equipment? How would someone identify digital era work from previous work?
> How does the current beginning of the digital era account for previous
> digital production (from, presumably, before the beginning of the digital
> era)?
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> Gunnar Swanson
> East Carolina University
> graphic design program
>
> http://www.ecu.edu/cs-cfac/soad/graphic/index.cfm
> [log in to unmask]
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 18:04:35 +0100
> From: Carlos Pires <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What period of design history are we currently in?
>
> Dear Jed,
>
> I wouldn't use the "digital" designation either.
> It's been approximately 30 years since we went digital.
> I don't think the nature of our tools, or the nature of our medium
> matters that much (in comparison with the design of the last 30 years).
> But one thing is for sure: the "digital" enabled this current age of
> symbiotic relationships between designers, computers, and networks (and
> I'm talking about the relationships resulting from all of the
> combinatorial possibilities of these three elements).
> If anything, design is currently an extremely self-referential activity,
> and the references and connections happen through the digital veins of
> this massive organism we call culture, in something that can eventually
> be called distributed creativity.
>
> And the symbiosis is vital: no designer can survive nowadays without a
> computer nor without a functioning internet connection.
>
> On 2015-05-22 17:36, Gunnar Swanson wrote:
> >> On May 22, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Jed Looker <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Speaking purely from personal observation as a practicing designer,
> >> future academics may consider this period of design to be the
> >> beginning of the digital era.
> >
> >
> > Jed,
> >
> > Does "the digital era" have any attributes other than the use of
> > digital equipment? How would someone identify digital era work from
> > previous work? How does the current beginning of the digital era
> > account for previous digital production (from, presumably, before the
> > beginning of the digital era)?
> >
> >
> > Gunnar
> >
> > Gunnar Swanson
> > East Carolina University
> > graphic design program
> >
> --
> Best regards,
>
> ==================================
> Carlos Pires
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 18:08:18 +0100
> From: derek hales <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> looks real enough to me ;-)
>
>
> http://www.journals.elsevier.com/she-ji-the-journal-of-design-economics-and-innovation/editorial-board/
>
> derek
>
> Derek Hales, Architect, RIBA, MRes(Lon)
>
> www.designfictions.com
>
> On 22 May 2015 at 17:13, Jonathan Bishop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> >
> > Why are you always using this list to promote your efforts and yet to
> > criticise those of others?
> >
> > It is as if you think you have more right to publicity than others in the
> > same field as you.
> >
> > How do we know your journal is not a fake one? You seem to think anyone
> who
> > posts a CFP that isn't for a publication you have heard of is fake. I
> > haven't heard of your journal before so how can I know it's not fake?
> >
> > Jonathan Bishop
> >
> > On Friday, 22 May 2015, Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Friends,
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for the kind messages I have been getting on the launch
> of
> > > the new journal. There were several requests for a .pdf version.
> > >
> > > You will find attached a .pdf version of the CFP for 设计 She Ji. The
> > > Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation.
> > >
> > > The .pdf also shows you our first cover.
> > >
> > > Several people have asked whether we welcome article proposals in
> advance
> > > of full submissions. We do indeed. Please send queries to our managing
> > > editor, Dr. Jin Ma at
> > >
> > > [log in to unmask] <javascript:;>
> > >
> > > or to me at
> > >
> > > [log in to unmask] <javascript:;>
> > >
> > > We are eager to publish articles in any of the seven types listed in
> the
> > > CFP. We welcome fully peer-reviewed research articles, literature
> review
> > > articles, and case studies. We also seek discussion articles and
> > commentary
> > > pieces that are not subject to peer review. These include interviews,
> > > opinion leader commentary, and dialogues. In this latter type of
> article,
> > > we are open to new and innovative formats and ideas.
> > >
> > > Warm wishes,
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | Editor-in-Chief | 设计 She Ji. The
> > > Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation | Published by Elsevier in
> > > Cooperation with Tongji University Press | Launching in 2015
> > >
> > > Chair Professor of Design Innovation Studies | College of Design and
> > > Innovation | Tongji University | Shanghai, China ||| University
> > > Distinguished Professor | Centre for Design Innovation | Swinburne
> > > University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 18:48:11 +0100
> From: Carlos Pires <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> I don't know... that Elsevier company looks kinda shady. Never heard of
> it before...
>
>
> On 2015-05-22 18:08, derek hales wrote:
> > looks real enough to me ;-)
> >
> >
> http://www.journals.elsevier.com/she-ji-the-journal-of-design-economics-and-innovation/editorial-board/
> >
> > derek
> >
> > Derek Hales, Architect, RIBA, MRes(Lon)
> >
> > www.designfictions.com
> >
> > On 22 May 2015 at 17:13, Jonathan Bishop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> Why are you always using this list to promote your efforts and yet to
> >> criticise those of others?
> >>
> >> It is as if you think you have more right to publicity than others in
> >> the
> >> same field as you.
> >>
> >> How do we know your journal is not a fake one? You seem to think
> >> anyone who
> >> posts a CFP that isn't for a publication you have heard of is fake. I
> >> haven't heard of your journal before so how can I know it's not fake?
> >>
> >> Jonathan Bishop
> >>
> --
> Best regards,
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 17:49:06 +0000
> From: Jed Looker <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What period of design history are we currently in?
>
> Gunnar, good questions. Speaking specifically to graphic design I would
> say the digital era is categorized as a user or audience interacting with
> pixels over paper. Interaction has therefore (in my opinion) become the
> main attribute that sets digital work apart from traditional work.
> Interaction with a website or mobile app, for example, is far more complex
> than interaction with a book or packaging. As digital media continues to
> grow with the availability of cheaper devices and increased internet
> coverage (especially in the developing word), contemporary graphic
> designers need to at least understand the principles and best practices of
> interaction design on top of their knowledge of visual communication if
> they are to create work that is accessible by their audience. Arguably, the
> graphic designer of a few decades ago did not have to consider interaction
> to such an extent when designing for long established paper and video
> medias.
>
>
> --
> Jed Looker
> MDes Candidate
>
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>
> On May 22, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> On May 22, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Jed Looker <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Speaking purely from personal observation as a practicing designer, future
> academics may consider this period of design to be the beginning of the
> digital era.
>
>
> Jed,
>
> Does "the digital era" have any attributes other than the use of digital
> equipment? How would someone identify digital era work from previous work?
> How does the current beginning of the digital era account for previous
> digital production (from, presumably, before the beginning of the digital
> era)?
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> Gunnar Swanson
> East Carolina University
> graphic design program
>
> http://www.ecu.edu/cs-cfac/soad/graphic/index.cfm
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 19:59:49 +0200
> From: Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> Mr Bishop,
>
> My warning notes to the list always involve profit-making enterprises
> where predatory publishers and conferences attempt to make money off
> unsuspecting researchers. In the case of predatory publishers, all are
> identified on Jeffrey Beall’s list of predatory publishers.
>
> I welcome and support projects by legitimate not-for-profit organisations,
> universities, and serious publishers. You have never seen me criticise
> these.
>
> There are two simple ways that allow you can see that the journal is
> legitimate. First, use the link to Elsevier web site:
>
>
> http://www.elsevier.com/journals/she-ji-the-journal-ofdesign-economics-and-innovation/2405-8726
>
> You will learn about the journal there.
>
> Second, you can identify the editors, the editorial board, and the
> editorial advisory board. If you were active in design research, you would
> recognise the names of the editors and advisors of this journal. While you
> show up on this list from time to time, you do not seem to publish in our
> field. If you don’t publish in design journals and you don’t do design
> research yourself, you won’t recognise these names. If you did, you would.
>
> Read the CFP. We are not making money from this journal. This is an open
> access journal that charges no author fees. In this respect, we resemble
> the International Journal of Design and FormAkademisk, two open access
> journals that charge no publishing fees.
>
> My warning notes do not warn against journals or conferences because I DO
> NOT know about them. I warn researchers and list members about dodgy
> journals and conference because I DO know about them. I follow the field. I
> check the web sites. I check the journals against Beall’s list. I study the
> terms under which profit-making ventures ask researchers to pay money to be
> published or to participate.
>
> As many list members do, I make resources available to the list. If you
> had been active here since the list began, you would know this. You do not
> participate in the field of design research. You are not part of a
> university or research organisation involved in design. You are not
> responsible for training research students and you are not responsible for
> a PhD program in design. In fact, you don’t seem to have a PhD and you are
> not active in doctoral education in any field. I do not know why you have
> decided to make me the repeated target of irrelevant personal attacks, but
> I think it is time to stop.
>
> Ken Friedman
>
> Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | Editor-in-Chief | 设计 She Ji. The
> Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation | Published by Elsevier in
> Cooperation with Tongji University Press | Launching in 2015
>
> Chair Professor of Design Innovation Studies | College of Design and
> Innovation | Tongji University | Shanghai, China ||| University
> Distinguished Professor | Centre for Design Innovation | Swinburne
> University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia
>
> —
>
> Jonathan Bishop wrote:
>
> —snip—
>
> Why are you always using this list to promote your efforts and yet to
> criticise those of others?
>
> It is as if you think you have more right to publicity than others in the
> same field as you.
>
> How do we know your journal is not a fake one? You seem to think anyone
> who posts a CFP that isn't for a publication you have heard of is fake. I
> haven't heard of your journal before so how can I know it's not fake?
>
> —snip—
>
> --
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 14:52:03 -0400
> From: Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> I don't always agree with Ken but I certainly do in this case.
>
>
> > On May 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Mr Bishop,
> [snip]
> > I do not know why you have decided to make me the repeated target of
> irrelevant personal attacks, but I think it is time to stop.
>
> >> Jonathan Bishop wrote:
> >>
> >> How do we know your journal is not a fake one? You seem to think anyone
> who posts a CFP that isn't for a publication you have heard of is fake. I
> haven't heard of your journal before so how can I know it's not fake?
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> Gunnar Swanson
> East Carolina University
> graphic design program
>
> http://www.ecu.edu/cs-cfac/soad/graphic/index.cfm
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Gunnar Swanson Design Office
> 1901 East 6th Street
> Greenville NC 27858
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 19:58:11 +0100
> From: Jonathan Bishop <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> I see, you don't support profit-making endeavours.
>
> What will you do with your journal if Elsevier make a profit next year?
>
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6caa9db2-bd86-11e4-8cf3-00144feab7de.html#axzz3atZFSdgv
>
> Jonathan Bishop
>
> On 22 May 2015 at 18:59, Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Mr Bishop,
> >
> > My warning notes to the list always involve profit-making enterprises
> > where predatory publishers and conferences attempt to make money off
> > unsuspecting researchers. In the case of predatory publishers, all are
> > identified on Jeffrey Beall’s list of predatory publishers.
> >
> > I welcome and support projects by legitimate not-for-profit
> organisations,
> > universities, and serious publishers. You have never seen me criticise
> > these.
> >
> > There are two simple ways that allow you can see that the journal is
> > legitimate. First, use the link to Elsevier web site:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.elsevier.com/journals/she-ji-the-journal-ofdesign-economics-and-innovation/2405-8726
> >
> > You will learn about the journal there.
> >
> > Second, you can identify the editors, the editorial board, and the
> > editorial advisory board. If you were active in design research, you
> would
> > recognise the names of the editors and advisors of this journal. While
> you
> > show up on this list from time to time, you do not seem to publish in our
> > field. If you don’t publish in design journals and you don’t do design
> > research yourself, you won’t recognise these names. If you did, you
> would.
> >
> > Read the CFP. We are not making money from this journal. This is an open
> > access journal that charges no author fees. In this respect, we resemble
> > the International Journal of Design and FormAkademisk, two open access
> > journals that charge no publishing fees.
> >
> > My warning notes do not warn against journals or conferences because I DO
> > NOT know about them. I warn researchers and list members about dodgy
> > journals and conference because I DO know about them. I follow the
> field. I
> > check the web sites. I check the journals against Beall’s list. I study
> the
> > terms under which profit-making ventures ask researchers to pay money to
> be
> > published or to participate.
> >
> > As many list members do, I make resources available to the list. If you
> > had been active here since the list began, you would know this. You do
> not
> > participate in the field of design research. You are not part of a
> > university or research organisation involved in design. You are not
> > responsible for training research students and you are not responsible
> for
> > a PhD program in design. In fact, you don’t seem to have a PhD and you
> are
> > not active in doctoral education in any field. I do not know why you have
> > decided to make me the repeated target of irrelevant personal attacks,
> but
> > I think it is time to stop.
> >
> > Ken Friedman
> >
> > Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | Editor-in-Chief | 设计 She Ji. The
> > Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation | Published by Elsevier in
> > Cooperation with Tongji University Press | Launching in 2015
> >
> > Chair Professor of Design Innovation Studies | College of Design and
> > Innovation | Tongji University | Shanghai, China ||| University
> > Distinguished Professor | Centre for Design Innovation | Swinburne
> > University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia
> >
> > —
> >
> > Jonathan Bishop wrote:
> >
> > —snip—
> >
> > Why are you always using this list to promote your efforts and yet to
> > criticise those of others?
> >
> > It is as if you think you have more right to publicity than others in the
> > same field as you.
> >
> > How do we know your journal is not a fake one? You seem to think anyone
> > who posts a CFP that isn't for a publication you have heard of is fake. I
> > haven't heard of your journal before so how can I know it's not fake?
> >
> > —snip—
> >
> > --
> >
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 20:07:47 +0100
> From: Jonathan Bishop <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> Hi Gunnar,
>
> I follow this list for many reasons, including because the giants of my
> undergraduate days, like Don Norman, contribute to it.
>
> Being an Internet trolling expert I take exception to Ken acting like a Big
> Man who assumes a de facto council over anything posted on this list. He
> treats this list as if he is the leader and everyone must follow him.
>
> When he spread rumours about a conference of a colleague's being fake when
> it was not, I have given more attention to his posts than I otherwise
> would.
>
> Ken's post are double standard. He will criticise people for doing things
> he then does himself. For instance there are numerous posts where he
> promotes his own academic works, yet he feels inclined to behave in a way
> to others that resembles malicious falsehood.
>
> So unless Ken changes, and starts to respect the integrity of other
> academics, then when he acts in a way I perceive as biased I will highlight
> that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jonathan Bishop
>
> On 22 May 2015 at 19:52, Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I don't always agree with Ken but I certainly do in this case.
> >
> >
> > > On May 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ken Friedman <
> [log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Mr Bishop,
> > [snip]
> > > I do not know why you have decided to make me the repeated target of
> > irrelevant personal attacks, but I think it is time to stop.
> >
> > >> Jonathan Bishop wrote:
> > >>
> > >> How do we know your journal is not a fake one? You seem to think
> anyone
> > who posts a CFP that isn't for a publication you have heard of is fake. I
> > haven't heard of your journal before so how can I know it's not fake?
> >
> >
> > Gunnar
> >
> > Gunnar Swanson
> > East Carolina University
> > graphic design program
> >
> > http://www.ecu.edu/cs-cfac/soad/graphic/index.cfm
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Gunnar Swanson Design Office
> > 1901 East 6th Street
> > Greenville NC 27858
> > USA
> >
> > http://www.gunnarswanson.com
> > [log in to unmask]
> > +1 252 258-7006
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 15:08:27 -0400
> From: Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What period of design history are we currently in?
>
> > On May 22, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Jed Looker <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Speaking specifically to graphic design I would say the digital era is
> categorized as a user or audience interacting with pixels over paper.
> Interaction has therefore (in my opinion) become the main attribute that
> sets digital work apart from traditional work.
>
> Jed,
>
> Looking at the means of reception rather than the means of production is
> interesting.
>
> Stephen's original post seemed to assume stylistic divisions based on
> philosophical and formal differences. Your answer is more on a functional
> level. Do you think that there is as much philosophical and formal range in
> interactive design as there has been in paper-based graphic design or do
> you see the digital as more unitary?
>
> As much as philosophical and political context is saluted, I'm afraid most
> art historical and design historical "movements" tend to be defined by
> formal elements.
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> Gunnar Swanson
> East Carolina University
> graphic design program
>
> http://www.ecu.edu/cs-cfac/soad/graphic/index.cfm
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Gunnar Swanson Design Office
> 1901 East 6th Street
> Greenville NC 27858
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>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 19:18:39 +0000
> From: Katherine J Hepworth <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> At the risk of shooting myself in the foot, and having no-one from the
> list ever talk to me at a conference again, Jonathan has a point. I believe
> this is a criticism of behavior on the list, rather than a personal attack,
> and that criticism of behavior is valid, irrespective of the way it is
> delivered.
>
> It’s a good thing that we collectively and openly discuss what is we feel
> is acceptable behavior on this great resource we have built together.
>
> My two cents.
>
> Katherine Hepworth
>
>
> On May 22, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Jonathan Bishop <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Gunnar,
>
> I follow this list for many reasons, including because the giants of my
> undergraduate days, like Don Norman, contribute to it.
>
> Being an Internet trolling expert I take exception to Ken acting like a Big
> Man who assumes a de facto council over anything posted on this list. He
> treats this list as if he is the leader and everyone must follow him.
>
> When he spread rumours about a conference of a colleague's being fake when
> it was not, I have given more attention to his posts than I otherwise
> would.
>
> Ken's post are double standard. He will criticise people for doing things
> he then does himself. For instance there are numerous posts where he
> promotes his own academic works, yet he feels inclined to behave in a way
> to others that resembles malicious falsehood.
>
> So unless Ken changes, and starts to respect the integrity of other
> academics, then when he acts in a way I perceive as biased I will highlight
> that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jonathan Bishop
>
> On 22 May 2015 at 19:52, Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> I don't always agree with Ken but I certainly do in this case.
>
>
> On May 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> wrote:
>
> Mr Bishop,
> [snip]
> I do not know why you have decided to make me the repeated target of
> irrelevant personal attacks, but I think it is time to stop.
>
> Jonathan Bishop wrote:
>
> How do we know your journal is not a fake one? You seem to think anyone
> who posts a CFP that isn't for a publication you have heard of is fake. I
> haven't heard of your journal before so how can I know it's not fake?
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> Gunnar Swanson
> East Carolina University
> graphic design program
>
> http://www.ecu.edu/cs-cfac/soad/graphic/index.cfm
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Gunnar Swanson Design Office
> 1901 East 6th Street
> Greenville NC 27858
> USA
>
> http://www.gunnarswanson.com
> [log in to unmask]
> +1 252 258-7006
>
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> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 21:27:43 +0200
> From: Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: She Ji CFP in .pdf format
>
> Mr Bishop,
>
> In my reply to you, I stated that I support projects by legitimate
> not-for-profit organisations, universities, AND serious publishers.
> Elsevier is a serious publisher.
>
> Established in 1880, Elsevier is one of the oldest scientific and
> scholarly publishers in the world. By and large, Elsevier is profitable.
>
> Tongji University and Tongji University Press own the journal. The journal
> does not belong to me. While I am editor-in-chief, we have around one
> hundred editors and advisors, and even more reviewers. This is “our”
> journal. Elsevier is our publishing partner.
>
> Enough.
>
> Ken Friedman
>
> Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | Editor-in-Chief | 设计 She Ji. The
> Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation | Published by Elsevier in
> Cooperation with Tongji University Press | Launching in 2015
>
> Chair Professor of Design Innovation Studies | College of Design and
> Innovation | Tongji University | Shanghai, China ||| University
> Distinguished Professor | Centre for Design Innovation | Swinburne
> University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia
>
> —
>
> Jonathan Bishop wrote:
>
> —snip—
>
> I see, you don't support profit-making endeavours.
>
> What will you do with your journal if Elsevier make a profit next year?
>
> —snip—
>
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