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From: "John Dillon" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [M-R] FEAST - A Celebration for the Day (February 24): the
First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> Plastic images of John's head on a charger exist in media other than
> alabaster. Barbara Baert, "The Head of St. John the Baptist on a Platter:
> The Gaze of Death", _Ikon_ (Croatia) 4 (2011), 1-12, is a useful
> discussion, nicely illustrated, of such images in late medieval thought
> and practice. It's available on the free Web at academia.edu:
> https://www.academia.edu/5334063/The_Head_of_Saint_John_the_Baptist_on_a_Platter._The_Gaze_of_Death_in_Ikon_4_Croatia_2011_p._1-12
> TinyURL for that:
> http://tinyurl.com/qagzhhe
>
> A partial answer to Rosemary's question about provenances occurs in the
> second paragraph of this discussion (also from 2011) of the late medieval
> English alabasters:
> http://www.bowdoin.edu/news/archives/1academicnews/008214.shtml
> Specimens of this craft were exported commercially in large numbers. Most
> of those that remained in England or went to Scotland will have been
> destroyed during the Reformation (or discarded then and destroyed later);
> most of those that one sees today in the V&A (and, presumably, in the
> Burrell Collection as well) returned to the UK with modern travelers who
> had acquired them abroad.
>
> Beyond that, most of these images were created for private devotion. By
> the time these objects reached today's major museums their later owners
> will in many instances have had little or no knowledge of the specifics of
> their original use. The Louvre too has a collection of such alabasters and
> I suspect that its provenances for these are likewise largely
> uninformative.
>
> Best,
> John Dillon
>
> On 02/24/15, Genevra Kornbluth wrote:
>> I've always assumed that the head alabasters were displayed in much the
>> same way as other subjects, but will be most interested in other ideas!
>> Here's another example
>> http://www.kornbluthphoto.com/JohnBaptist.html
>> row 5 no. 3
>> Genevra
>>
>> On 2/24/2015 6:26 AM, Rosemary Hayes-Milligan and Andrew Milligan wrote:
>> >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> >culture
>> >
>> >Superb image and background description Gordon. The first time I saw
>> >Nottingham alabasters in any number was on my first visit to the Burrell
>> >collection in Glasgow - hugely frustrating because there is no
>> >provenance with any of the pieces. Is that typical? Do we just have the
>> >panels with
>> >no indication of where and by whom they were originally used?
>> >
>> >Rosemary Hayes
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Plumb"
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>> >Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:47 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [M-R] FEAST - A Celebration for the Day (February 24): the
>> >First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner
>> >
>> >
>> >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> >culture
>> >
>> >Only marginally relevant to this is the fact that the head of John the
>> >Baptist was a major subject of Nottingham
>> >alabasters: Here is an example in the Castle Museum in Nottingham.:
>> >
>> >https://www.flickr.com/photos/22274117@N08/16244647939
>> >
>> >Gordon Plumb
>> >
>
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