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Dear Cecilia, I'm sure others will have a less messy solution but here is how I would attack your issue. Hesbert's CAO and the Cantus database show antiphons in order. So for Lauds of the First Sunday, Hesbert will, under Ad Laudes (or whatever) list five antiphons (or more, just to make life interesting). As for the Cantus database, once you have chosen a text it will show the position of the antiphon in each manuscript; e.g. A V1 1, or Antiphon at first Vespers in the first position. Then go to what ever psalter that is appropriate (Roman Curia or monastic) and find the 'usual' psalms for the various categories: there are not that many: vespers and lauds psalms for Sundays and most feasts are set down early and don't vary that much.Most saint's feasts use the Sunday psalm order, especially in the High and Later Middle Ages. Ferial psalms the same. Matins is more variable but the same technique should work.
best,
John B. Wickstrom
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Subject: [M-R] Psalms and Antiphon pairings
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Hello all,
Can any of you help me figure out how I might track down what Psalms were paired with what antiphons in original use (such as it is). I'm mining the cantus database's digitization of images, but many of these don't offer the Psalm incipit, and thus I am at a loss. For instance:
"Ecce nomen domini venit de longinquo..." (CAO 2527)- is most often used during the First Sunday in Advent (according to the cantus database). Here it is used as the first antiphon for First Vespers, but this is naturally quite variable. How can I tell what psalm it went with - or whether it was normally paired with a particular psalm.
I have lots of these that I need to trace. Some I've been able to identify by using the digizations, but lots I haven't. Anyone know?
thanks
as usual, methodologically befuddled,
cecilia
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