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It would seem that Wales was very different from late medieval England where
celibacy was enforced from the point of ordination as subdeacon. Married
clerks, who sometimes acted as registrars, etc, may have been ordained as
far as acolyte, but no further. I know the fourteenth-fifteenth century, so
probably too late to be of help to Meg.
Pat Cullum may have something to say on clerical celibacy?
Best wishes,
Rosemary Hayes
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Not sure if it's relevant but here in Wales (as elsewhere on the European
periphery) clerical marriage seems to have been the norm throughout the
medieval period. By the early C16 even marriage of abbots was acceptable
(though I don't have any references to other members of monastic communities
being married).
So some deacons are very likely to have been married - though again I can't
find any specific references.
Maddy
Madeleine Gray PhD, FRHistS, FSA
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Greetings all,
Does anyone know or can you suggest good material (not Wikipedia, which I
can access on my own)
on the question of when and where in the Catholic tradition deacons were
allowed to marry? I have Icelandic references to the (attempted?)
introduction of deaconal celibacy. I'd also be interested in any good
studies of the deaconate in the early church, and of the changes introduced
in Vatican 2, whereby they are allowed to baptize and marry people (as well
as being married, but apparently not re=marry if their wife dies.)
Thanks to all,
Meg
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