Dear Don,
Very jolly but also a little cute?
There are very good accounts of consciousness that do not require we
invent some storage place called an un-consciousness.
Think of pre-reflective consciousness, for example. With only a little
attention to how our eye moves from thing to thing like a honey eater, we
can observe our attention being bent (intended) towards things.
Being trained to observe things entering consciousness is a useful skill
for those who are prepared to acknowledge that attention is attention to
something that was there, in pre-consciousness prior to conscious
attention. It helps get the muck out of the stables of creativity.
Cheers reflectively
keith
On 30/09/2014 2:47 pm, "Don Norman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Excellent answer. Thank you.
>
>We should have a more private discussion about research methods for your
>dissertation. (Next time I am at SCAD?)
>
>
>And yeah, this is a public response, but I thought the discussion group
>should know that my overly cute remark about Priscila's research was
>promptly put down with her appropriate response. She isn't probing the
>unconscious by a survey: she is probing what people do about it. And for
>that, a survey is fine.
>
>
>Maybe all this is irrelevant anyway, for Terry just informed me that the
>unconscious is a myth, a theoretical entity that does not exist. Why? I
>suspect because we can't see it. I responded that the unconscious, like
>consciousness, is not a thing that can be seen: it is a state of mental
>processing. When people act or make decisions of which they are unaware,
>that is by definition being done unconsciously. Consciousness implies
>awareness.
>
>(Come to think of it, perhaps Terry is a theoretical entity, a mythical
>creature. After all, he can't be seen. Maybe those emails come from some
>sentient computer up there in the clouds pretending to be Terry. Has
>anyone
>actually seen Terry? (I have seen someone who claimed to be Terry, but I
>have no evidence that this is the same "thing" that authors those emails.)
>
>
>
>don
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