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Thank you, Graham!
I think your old friend Jon K has a copy in his office (somewhere)
Maddy
Dr Madeleine Gray PhD, FRHistS, FSA
Reader in Church History/ Darllenydd mewn Hanes yr Eglwys
School of Humanities and Social Sciences /Ysgol Ddyniaethau a Gwyddoniaethau Cymdeithasol
University of South Wales/Prifysgol De Cymru
Caerleon Campus/Campws Caerllion,
Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3QT Tel: +44 (0)1633.432675
http://www.southwales.ac.uk
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'[S]he that is down need fear no fall
[S]he that is low no pride'
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Dave, Point your browser at
http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/archiveDownload?t=arch-1164-1/dissemination/pdf/MSRG_Vol_25/045-051_Harrison_et_al.pdf
Peter McTeague has put this paper on Academia.
The same issue has a research paper by David Harrison: 'Medieval bridges: past and future. The current state of knowledge
and proposals for future research', on pp. 32-39. I'm not aware of this being available electronically.
Hope this helps.
Graham
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Maddy, have you got a copy of this journal?
Dave
(not sure if I should have asked through this medium!)
On 8 Jun 2014, at 15:22, Graham Jones wrote:
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> The map of 115 bridge chapels identified by David Harrison, Peter
> McKeague, and Bruce Watson, 'England's fortified medieval bridges
> and bridge chapels: A new survey', Medieval Settlement Research 25
> (2010), pp. 45-72, shows how well distributed they are (though with
> very few examples south of the Thames). Pilgrimage will have been
> one impetus for travel, but not, perhaps, the principal one.
>
> A quick look at around 50 bridge chapels south of the Humber (in my
> own notes) discloses only one more case of Nicholas. Indeed, the
> only discernable pattern is an interest in Thomas Becket in parts
> of the pre-Reformation Lincoln diocese.
>
> Graham
>
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> Bradford is said to have been on a pilgrimage route to Glastonbury.
>
> [It probably still is. Going to Glastonbury for the festival is a
> rite of
> passage for the youth of the town]
>
> Anne
>
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> Plenty of bequests for road maintenance before the Reformation as
> well. Some
> can be tied into pilgrimage routes but most can't.
>
> Maddy
>
> Dr Madeleine Gray PhD, FRHistS, FSA
> Reader in Church History/ Darllenydd mewn Hanes yr Eglwys School of
> Humanities and Social Sciences /Ysgol Ddyniaethau a Gwyddoniaethau
> Cymdeithasol University of South Wales/Prifysgol De Cymru Caerleon
> Campus/Campws Caerllion, Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3QT Tel: +44 (0)
> 1633.432675
> http://www.southwales.ac.uk http://twitter.com/penrhyspilgrim
> http://twitter.com/HeritageUSW http://twitter.com/USWHistory
>
> '[S]he that is down need fear no fall
> [S]he that is low no pride'
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> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 10:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [M-R] St Nicholas
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> John's cautionary words are well made. Having now read through W.
> H. R.
> Jones' history, it seems that he associated the structure with a
> chantry of
> St Nicholas in the parish church - but I didn't notice how he made the
> connection. Maybe I missed it. Like other parishes throughout England,
> Bradford on Avon had late medieval devotions both to Nicholas and
> his female
> counterpart Catherine.
>
> A quick look at the Wiki article on 'Village lock-ups' strengthens the
> feeling that what is seen today at Bradford is indeed a lock-up of the
> seventeenth or eighteenth century. And yet... I've seen no others
> incorporated into a bridge. Trowbridge's, offered locally as the
> alter ego
> of Bradford's, is in fact on 'dry land' at one end of the town
> bridge. Most
> lock-ups, though secure, look pretty low-key. Early modern
> lawmakers were
> not known for over-spending on prisons, least of all the overnight
> variety.
> It's hard to imagine Bradford or the county of Wiltshire - the two
> were in
> contention in the seventeenth century over who should repair the
> town's
> bridge - going to the trouble and expense of building a lock-up on a
> specially constructed extension of one of the bridge piers. What
> would be
> the point?
>
> They might well, however, have commandeered, and rebuilt as
> necessary, an
> existing structure. If I were a betting man, I'd go along with John
> Aubrey's
> report of a chapel.
>
> Though a matter of immediately local interest, Anne's query has
> nevertheless
> drawn attention to several wider themes. One is papal indulgences
> for 'good
> works' which including the building of bridges and roads. The pope
> called
> for donations towards the repair of Bradford bridge in 1400. I
> used to
> wonder why bequests immediately after the Reformation so often
> benefitted
> road repairs when previously they had been made to altars and
> chantries and
> the like, but of course this was one of the many areas in which the
> medieval
> church did essential social service. Perhaps the endowment of a
> priest to
> serve at Bradford's chantry of St Nicholas not long afterwards in
> 1420 led
> Jones to make the link between saint and bridge.
>
> Incidentally, the VCH article John mentions also details a rare late
> survival of church-scot, an English variety of local ecclesiastical
> taxation. Worth a look for those who may be interested.
>
> Graham
>
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> The wording of Anne's original query suggests greater caution on
> her part
> regarding the structure's original dedication than is evident in
> the page
> from the St Nicholas Center in Bari cited by Jane below. Such
> caution seems
> perfectly appropriate.
>
> The nineteenth-century historian of Bradford on Avon, W. H. Rich
> Jones, is
> reported here <http://www.freshford.com/bridge_bradford.htm> as
> saying,
> "Concerning the dedication of the Bridge Chapel we have no authentic
> information at present." Jones' early twentieth-century successor
> as a local
> historian, John Beddoe, has nothing to add on that particular score
> (the
> discussion of the chapel linked to just above is taken from his
> annotated
> edition of Jones' _Bradford-on-Avon: A History and Description
> [Bradford on
> Avon: Wm. Dotesio, the Library Press, 1907] and the matter in
> brackets is
> his).
>
> The English Heritage data sheet on the Town Bridge and Chapel is
> likewise
> silent about any dedication
> <http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?
> uid=1036011>. The
> discussion in vol. 7 of the Victoria county history of Wiltshire
> observes,
> in the paragraph beginning "Bradford's name", that apart from a
> statement by
> the seventeenth-century antiquary John Aubrey there is "no evidence
> that the
> building was ever used for religious purposes"
> <http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=115456>
>
> Similarly suspect the St Nicholas Center's assertion that "The gudgeon
> (fish) on the weather vane is a Christian symbol dating from the
> time of the
> chapel" (<https://www.stnicholascenter.org/galleries/gazetteer/4219/
> >),
> whatever "the time of the chapel" may mean (here probably medieval
> but on
> another page the St Nicholas Center seems to think that the
> building is
> still a chapel and a Roman Catholic one at that; see
> <https://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/gazetteer/?
> category_id=16&p=4&n=29>)
> . Beddoe, seemingly followed by English Heritage, thought the vane
> to be
> sixteenth-century work. The VCH is rather less positive: "The
> antiquity of
> the weather-vane is uncertain. It existed in 1858 but is not shown
> in an
> engraving that was probably made about 1800."
>
> Best,
> John Dillon
>
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