well,
david,
what you described as disagreeing with me, that designs face
"an endless stream of human activity in which some designs survive, mutate, transform, or just get abandoned and die. Some designs are used in ways that nobody anticipated. Some are not even used for their original purpose. Stakeholders shift and change, and literally lose their interest"
is precisely what i said in fewer words; whether and how a design succeeds is decided within the network of its stakeholders.
for me, the definition of a stakeholders includes some interests in a design, bringing their own meaning to it, using it in any way they choose, including not at all, mobilizing their own resources to facilitate or oppose it, and actively participating in that network or ceasing to be involved. In such networks, designers' intentions may or may not survive, and the ability of designers to predict what is happening to a proposed design is limited, often absent.
klaus
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On 20 May 2014, at 10:00 am, Klaus Krippendorff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> so, i agree, the last word is not that of the market but i suggest it is of the network of stakeholders that connects multiple perspectives and resources in support or opposition of a design.
I would love to agree, but I don't. I don't think there is a last word. There is just an endless stream of human activity in which some designs survive, mutate, transform, or just get abandoned and die. Some designs are used in ways that nobody anticipated. Some are not even used for their original purpose. Stakeholders shift and change, and literally lose their interest. But there is no final word.
Most of the designs we work with that achieve the outcomes we wanted, rarely do so for any prolonged period of time. In the monitoring stage we have found that the usability of the design can deteriorate significantly after only six months. As most designers do not include monitoring in their projects, they just don't know what happens to their designs once they are implemented. And I would never expect them to have a useful opinion on who has the last word.
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