Consider the 'Like' button pressed, Mark!
Although the 'volunteers' are mostly people on minimal benefits and if they
were paid of course the benefits would disappear with a massive 'whoosh'
and a huge 'thump'.
On 6 May 2014 18:31, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I suppose we could start a charity that collects money to pay volunteers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: May 6, 2014 1:26 PM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: plagiarism and poetry
> >
> >Something like that is supposed to be starting here (as of March just
> gone)
> >see
> >
> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-data-release-opens-the-lid-on-charity-finances
> >
> >but it's very hard to unravel. I recently went as a 'lay representative'
> to
> >an all-day event on presentations from interested charities for some
> >lottery monies, I won't be too specific. What really stood out to me and
> >other 'panelists' was that in each case the funds asked for were solely to
> >support a paid co-ordinator and for their 'office space'. It was assumed
> in
> >every presentation that the 'actual work' would be done by 'volunteers',
> >which as you know increasingly means people working for nothing under
> >compulsion.
> >
> >btw a 2011 list I saw, via the Charity Commision, gave, as the second
> >highest funded charity in the country, the Arts Council! -
> >
> http://www.charityinsight.com/news/income-generation/the-top-100-charity-index-
> >
> >
> >best
> >
> >dave
> >
> >
> >On 6 May 2014 17:59, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> In this country charities have to make public the percentage of
> donations
> >> that actually support the charity's ostensible goals.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >Sent: May 6, 2014 12:50 PM
> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >Subject: Re: plagiarism and poetry
> >> >
> >> >I had not known theft had undone so many.
> >> >
> >> >wait a sec ... that's by ... oh and ...
> >> >
> >> >Francis Bacon reportedly told Queen Elizabeth, upon her demanding that
> the
> >> >author of Richard II be tried for treason, that he should 'rather be
> >> >charged with larceny, for he hath stolen most of his lines from
> Cornelius
> >> >Tacitus'.
> >> >
> >> >You can though, earn a reasonable middle-class income via acquiring the
> >> >status of a poet, through creative writing teaching etc etc, which , as
> >> one
> >> >recently recognised 'poet' put it, is much 'better than the world of
> >> work'.
> >> >So it becomes awfully convenient to appropriate material for your
> claim to
> >> >status. In that respect the articles are misleading - people do make a
> >> >living out of poetry nowadays, far more so than in the past.
> >> >It, and not plagiarism, is very similar to what has happened to
> charities,
> >> >where the main financial thrust is to support paid 'co-ordinators'.
> >> >Churches of course are bedevilled by jobsworths - I recall a friend
> >> showing
> >> >me a parish newsletter where the incumbent had written 'it is the
> purpose
> >> >of a church and its congregation to provide for and support a priest'.
> >> >I don't think the poetical plagiarists write for 'fame' - but for a
> >> >comfortable recognition in a quiet corner of happy unseen feeding. Like
> >> >fish, in the hidden parts of a pond.
> >> >
> >> >best
> >> >
> >> >dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 6 May 2014 00:23, Halvard Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So many? I know of a couple ... well, maybe a few.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Monday, May 5, 2014, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Laziness, panic, narcissism, low self-esteem, ambition, deliberate
> >> >> > self-sabotage: Why so many poets are plagiarizing…
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://www.poetryfoundation.org/article/247130
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ruth Graham: Word Theft:
> >> >> > 2013 the year of the plagiarists
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> :: from the desk of Halvard Johnson ::
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >David Joseph Bircumshaw
> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> >Tumblr: http://zantikus.tumblr.com/
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>
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David Joseph Bircumshaw
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http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
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