*"I suggest the idea of design activity instead can be adjusted to include
plant intelligence. That way, it becomes more possible to see humans as a
part of, and integrated with, the whole of life."*
Terence, does this mean that you support to the ideology behind biomimicry
(and its inclusion in design practice)? My impressions of the responses
from this list was that this idea of integrating 'natural' intelligence in
design (specifically, the design of systems as opposed to artefacts) is
generally an unfavourable approach
best,
-stef
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Terence Love <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Don, Chuck, Gunnar and all,
>
> I agree with Don's description of intelligence as describing ' emergent
> properties of networked communications (among neurons, animals (e.g., ant
> or swarming birds. . . with the notion of plant intelligence resulting from
> similar networks of communicating structures.' I'd extend this to also
> include some structural facilities developed over time in response to their
> environments by the agents involved.
>
> These are ways of thinking from the realms of ethology and systems
> analysis.
> For some years, I've been explaining that using ethology and an
> ethological viewpoint resolves many of the difficulties and contradictions
> in design theory and research across most design domains. It also provides
> a
> way of making obvious and simplifying many issues regarded as 'mysteries'
> in
> design theory. Many, however, seem to assume I've mistyped, and that I was
> writing about ethnography!
>
> The idea of 'plant intelligence' as sketched by Don follows the ethological
> line. The description by Chuck is pulling the idea back into a
> human-centric
> anthropomorphic interpretation.
>
> Chuck, instead of seeing plant intelligence as a metaphor for something in
> [human] design and something at a distance in a different realm, I suggest
> the idea of design activity instead can be adjusted to include plant
> intelligence. That way, it becomes more possible to see humans as a part
> of, and integrated with, the whole of life.
>
> Gunnar, to answer one of your questions from a different thread, the
> ethological focus is why I write about 'creation of designs' using the
> rather flat technical meaning of ' any creation of a specification [design]
> for something to be made or done' , rather than using the human-centric,
> meaning-laden and emotionally laden, common folk definition of
> 'creativity'.
>
> Best wishes ,
> Terry
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Don Norman
> Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013 2:35 AM
> To: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related
> research in Design
> Subject: Intelligence in plants
>
> I found the article That Charles referred to (see below) to be an
> intelligent and fascinating discussion of a scientific controversy. Because
> I believe in intelligence as a result of emergent properties of networked
> communications (among neurons, animals (e.g., ant or swarming birds), I
> side with the notion of plant intelligence resulting from similar networks
> of communicating structures.
>
> What the article has to do with this discussion group isn't at all obvious,
> but it is fascinating to read. You can find it at
>
>
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/12/23/131223fa_fact_pollan?currentPa
> ge=all
>
> or go to
>
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/12/23/131223fa_fact_pollan
>
> And after the first page, where you are expected to pay to see the rest,
> click on the "print" button.
>
> Don
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Charles Burnette <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > The article, "The Intelligent Plant" in the December 23-30, 2013 New
> > Yorker magazine, p92-105, beautifully communicates the tensions
> > concerning semantic, philosophic, and practical science in the
> > emerging field of "Plant Signaling and Behavior" or "Plant
> > Neurobiology" as those who wish to broaden thinking through metaphor
> > (as well as science) espouse. We design types are not even close to
> > the contentious and creative ferment going on there. The quality and
> > resourcefulness of their ideas and argumentation are worth reflecting on.
> >
> > Pollan, Michael, 2013: The Intelligent Plant, The New Yorker Magazine,
> > December 23-30, p 92-105
> >
>
>
>
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