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Re: SPM bug, description, reproduction, and quick fix that needs to be checked (pp John Ashburner)

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Guillaume Flandin <[log in to unmask]>

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Guillaume Flandin <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:49:03 +0100

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Dear Sasha,

I would have to look at it in more details, but I would guess that more
changes are required (it was the case for @file_array) and some of them
can be well hidden.
Again, SPM can handle large files (as is often the case with M/EEG) but
not if the 'spm_vol' C library is used.

If you are at the modelling stage and spm_global is the only problem,
you can delete the MEX files spm_global.mex*, edit the function
spm_global.m and uncomment the MATLAB code. You will also probably have
to change one line so that it reads
  D     = spm_data_read(V(i),:,:,:); % assuming 3D data
This should be enough to run all the stats as the rest of the code uses
the @file_array library. Let me know if you come across something else
that I overlooked.

Out of curiosity, what is the size of your data (file size and image
dimensions)?

Best regards,
Guillaume.


On 08/10/13 15:32, Alejandro Vicente Grabovetsky wrote:
> Dear Guillaume,
> 
> SPM12b still breaks with input files larger than 2gb when running
> spm_globals, with the very same "file too small error".
> 
> Is the fix suggested by Thierry valid, and would it be possible to
> implement it into SPM8 and/or 12, as it would be very helpful for
> individuals working with very large datasets?
> 
> Best regards,
> Sasha
> 
> 
> On 24 April 2013 12:26, Guillaume Flandin <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> 
>     Dear Thierry,
> 
>     Thanks for the feedback.
>     The code in spm_mapping was not written with Large File Support (LFS) in
>     mind at the time so there is indeed a file size limitation of 2GB. This
>     is not the case if you access files with a second library that SPM
>     provides, file_array. This was mentioned in an earlier post on this
>     list:
>       https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=spm;5f45230c.1001
>     We hope to have them unified at some point and, for example, model
>     fitting (spm_spm.m) in SPM12b now uses the second library.
> 
>     Best regards,
>     Guillaume.
> 
> 
>     On 24/04/13 09:35, Thierry Chaminade wrote:
>     > Dear SPMers,
>     >
>     > Recently I sent a message to the list but didn't get response from the
>     > FIL so we kept on digging. I think similar issues have been
>     reported in
>     > the past
>     > (eg https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=spm;a029bc92.1302).
>     >
>     > I had my institute IT expert Florent Jaillet help me with the code to
>     > track down the origin of this limit. He found a fix to the code that
>     > worked perfectly for me, my large GLM-Flex design was computed without
>     > any more error. So I think at least, we're on the good track. It's a
>     > quick fix because we don't master all details of John's code. So I
>     would
>     > greatly encourage SPM programmers (particularly John as he wrote these
>     > files) to read the bug report Florent wrote copied hereunder.
>     >
>     > In my layman language, the quick fix is using "long long" type for
>     > variable "off" instead of "int" in spm_mapping.c to allow the offset
>     > pointer reading the disk to go further than the 2^31 limit of int. But
>     > please read the full report hereunder:
>     >
>     >
>     =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>     >
>     > The problem we reported seems to be due to a bug in spm_mapping.c
>     making
>     > the functions that use spm_mapping unable to handle correctly files
>     > bigger than around 2GB. We noticed the problem with spm_slice_vol and
>     > spm_sample_vol, but I guess that some other SPM mex functions
>     could have
>     > the same problem.
>     >
>     > Here are the details about how to reproduce the bug and a quick and
>     > dirty modification that seems to solve the problem in our case:
>     >
>     > Our configuration:
>     > Operating system: Debian GNU/Linux 6 (Squeeze) 64 bits
>     > MATLAB version:  R2012b (8.0.0.783)
>     > SPM 8 update revision number: 5236 (04-Feb-2013)
>     >
>     > To reproduce the bug, run the following code:
>     > %%%
>     > spm8_path = '/opt/spm8'; % put the path to your SPM8 installation here
>     > existing_file_name = [spm8_path, '/canonical/avg152PD.nii'];
>     > test_file_name = 'bug_test.nii';
>     > V = spm_vol(existing_file_name);
>     > [Y, xyz] = spm_read_vols(V);
>     > V.fname = test_file_name;
>     > ind = 2380; % there is no bug for ind < 2380
>     > V.n = [ind, 1];
>     > spm_write_vol(V, Y);
>     > V1000 = spm_vol([test_file_name, ',', num2str(ind)]);
>     > [Y, xyz] = spm_read_vols(V1000);
>     > %%%
>     >
>     > You should get the following error:
>     >
>     > %%%
>     > Error using spm_slice_vol
>     > File too small.
>     >
>     > Error in spm_read_vols (line 34)
>     >     Y(:,:,p,i) = spm_slice_vol(V(i),spm_matrix(__[0 0
>     p]),V(i).dim(1:2),0);
>     >
>     > Error in minimal_bug (line 11)
>     > [Y, xyz] = spm_read_vols(V1000);
>     > %%%
>     >
>     > You can solve this problem by modifying the type for  the variable
>     "off"
>     > in spm_mapping.c from "int" to "long long" and recompile the SPM
>     mex files.
>     > That means changing line 206 in spm_mapping.c which currently is:
>     >    int dsize = 0, off;
>     > to:
>     >    int dsize = 0;
>     >    long long off;
>     >
>     > and line 361 which is:
>     >    off = (int)fabs(pr[2]);
>     > to:
>     >    off = (long long)fabs(pr[2]);
>     >
>     > I didn't get into the details of the code, so I'm not sure about
>     what is
>     > happening, but it looks like "off" stands for "offset" and that the
>     > value of this offset being stored in an int, so a 32 bits signed
>     integer
>     > on our platform, is limited to a maximal value of around 2^31. That
>     > offset is likely to be counting a number of bytes, and 2^31 B is 2GB,
>     > the approximate limit of the file size leading to the bug. From what I
>     > saw when debugging, if we try to reach data that are beyond the
>     limit of
>     > 2GB, the conversion from the double value of "pr[2]" (which seems
>     to be
>     > right) to the int value "off" goes wrong due to the int overflow,
>     > leading to a wrong value of the variable "off" (it becomes negative).
>     >
>     > I'm not sure that changing the type of the variable "off" is the right
>     > solution to the problem as I don't know what the code is doing.
>     > But I think that some SPM developers should have a thorough look
>     at this
>     > problem, find the best solution and correct the bug everywhere it
>     can be
>     > (I don't know if spm_mapping.c is the only affected file).
>     > For example it is very likely that line 380 of spm_mapping.c
>     should also
>     > be modified:
>     >     off = (int)fabs(pr[2+j*3]);
> 
>     --
>     Guillaume Flandin, PhD
>     Wellcome Trust Centre for Neuroimaging
>     University College London
>     12 Queen Square
>     London WC1N 3BG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Vicente Grabovetsky, Alejandro (Sasha)
> Postdoctoral researcher
> Donders Centre for Cognitive Neuroimaging
> http://www.doellerlab.com

-- 
Guillaume Flandin, PhD
Wellcome Trust Centre for Neuroimaging
University College London
12 Queen Square
London WC1N 3BG

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