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Re: Mystery Pt4

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Christian Küchelmann <[log in to unmask]>

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Christian Küchelmann <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 18 Oct 2013 13:52:04 +0200

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Dear Fiona,

in an attempt to interpret the abundance of mesolithic harppon heads
in European inland sites Erwin Cziesla (2005) has summarised a
substantial number of seal sightings sometimes quite far in the inland.

Cziesla, Erwin (2005): Robbenjagd in Brandenburg. – Ethnografisch-
Archäologische Zeitschrift 48, 1-48

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Am 16.10.2013 um 22:49 schrieb fiona beglane:

> Thanks John
> That's so interesting - we always assume human agency when things
> are 'out of place' but this serves as a good reminder.
> All the best
> Fiona
>
>
>
>
> Fiona Beglane PhD
> Animal Bone Specialist
> Licensed Archaeologist
> Donegal, Ireland
> 074 97 21937
> 087 686 3914 (M)
> Alternate email address: [log in to unmask]
> Institute of Technology, Sligo
> http://itsligo.academia.edu/fionabeglane
>
> Upcoming international conference: www.archaeologyofgatherings.com
>
>
>
> From: "Cox, John" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Mystery Pt4
>
> #yiv7081659997 P { MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN-TOP:0px;}
> #yiv7081659997 P { MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN-TOP:0px;}
> A web search for "seals inland" produced the following:
>
> http://www.wildlifeextra.com/go/news/inland-seals.html#cr
>
> so an inland seal may not be that unusual.
>
> John
> ****************************************
> Dr John E Cox FRCVS
> 16 Cragside View
> Rothbury
> Northumberland
> NE65 7YU
>
> Division of Equine Studies
> University of Liverpool
> Leahurst
> Neston
> Wirral
> CH64 7TE
> From: Pam Crabtree [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 16 October 2013 19:18
> To: Cox, John; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Mystery Pt4
>
> This is interesting. there is also grey seal at Brandon on the
> Little Ouse. Brandon was probably a monastic foundation for part of
> its history. Pam Crabtree
>
> From: Cox, John
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:47 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Mystery Pt4
>
> Re seals inland
>
> There is a report in the Winter 2013 edition p35 of Nature's home
> (the magazine of the RSPB) which arrived in the post today of a
> grey seal being seen 50 miles inland up the Great Ouse. It had
> apparently negotiated about 20 weirs, was sighted in an encounter
> with cattle and someone near Bedford canoed alongside it.....
>
> John
>
> ****************************************
> Dr John E Cox FRCVS
> 16 Cragside View
> Rothbury
> Northumberland
> NE65 7YU
>
> Division of Equine Studies
> University of Liverpool
> Leahurst
> Neston
> Wirral
> CH64 7TE
> From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites
> [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of fiona beglane
> [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 16 October 2013 11:28
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Mystery Pt4
>
> Thank you very much Chris for that suggestion. This is very
> exciting as it is an inland monastic site so watery-foods come to
> mind.
> All the best
> Fiona
>
>
>
> Fiona Beglane PhD
> Animal Bone Specialist
> Licensed Archaeologist
> Donegal, Ireland
> 074 97 21937
> 087 686 3914 (M)
> Alternate email address: [log in to unmask]
> Institute of Technology, Sligo
> http://itsligo.academia.edu/fionabeglane
>
> Upcoming international conference: www.archaeologyofgatherings.com
>
>
>
> From: Christyann Darwent <[log in to unmask]>
> To: fiona beglane <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: zooarch <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 5:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Mystery Pt4
>
> Hi Fiona,
>
> Definitely from a juvenile Phoca sp., front flipper. The front
> phalanges are much more compact than the rear.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 6:45 AM, fiona beglane
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I wonder if I could call on the extreme generosity of members to
> help out with some mystery bones. I have 4 sets of photos kept
> under separate links for clarity. Medieval/Post med site in Ireland.
>
> Phalanges and metapodial. The 'concave' proximal ends look like
> what you get on pig accessory phalanges, but these are very big for
> pig, especially as the bone is very spongy / young juvenile in
> texture - or maybe a marine mammal? (Althougth this is an inland
> site).
>
> http://zooarchaeology.ning.com/photo/albums/4-mystery
>
> thanks
> Fiona
>
>
>
> Upcoming international conference: www.archaeologyofgatherings.com
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Christyann Darwent, Ph.D., Associate Professor
> Editor, Arctic Anthropology
> Chair - Evolutionary Anthropology
> Department of Anthropology
> University of California, Davis, CA 95616-8522
> ph: 530-574-5827; fax: 530-752-8885
> http://anthropology.ucdavis.edu/people/walrus
> http://uwpress.wisc.edu/journals/journals/aa.html
>
> "There may be more than one way to skin a cat, but you only get one
> try per cat"
>
>
>
>

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