This is interesting, & I dont know if it's happening here quite like that.
I agree with Jill that anthologies do good work when they show us what's been happening recently, choosing from work that's been published, that has already made it through some fairly interesting editorial screens, & also, perhaps, had some form of reception.
Also, we dont all write all the time....
And an anthology is sort of there to let people know about some of the work they might want to track down.... A good anthology invites you to take a look at more work by some writers, in the books from which the poems in the antho came...
One way of looking at it, anyway...
Doug
On 2013-05-01, at 6:37 PM, Jill Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Quite a few poets I know were talking about this - as if we were expected to go into a great flurry of love poem writing ecstasy - and a few actually queried the publisher. The response I got was along the lines of them wanting the collection to be all new because there are a couple of other collections around (though those love anths aren't very new, really - unless I'm missing one of them) and also as a promotional point, ‘new’ Australian love poems so that mainstream audiences (whoever they may be?) feel drawn to pick the book up, so they said. Not sure I quite get the reasoning, but, of course, their prerogative as publisher and/or editor. But a drag for us 'producers of content'.
>
> As for grants - certainly ozco was funding mags and journals for new work. But anthologies - no, they weren't part of that, and it was expected they may contain previously published as, indeed, any book of poetry most likely contains poems previously published in a mag.
>
> J
>
> On 02/05/2013, at 9:36 AM, Andrew Burke wrote:
>
>> Is the pub/unpub to do with going for grant money? Or paying for rights to
>> republish? The Love anthology presently being compiled only wanted
>> unpublished. I wondered why ...
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> On 2 May 2013 09:40, Jill Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> It was partly to do with a (mis)judgement - and something, err, more
>>> personal.
>>>
>>> Also - this is partly to do with a discussion I had with someone recently
>>> - the editors required new *unpublished* work, whereas what would have been
>>> good would have been to gather up recent work, whether pub or unpub to get
>>> a real sense of the field. In other words, there seem to have been a spate
>>> of anthologies and collections that want to only take the unpublished, so
>>> that they become a book form of a journal, in a sense, rather than a
>>> curated volume scanning the field (whatever the field may be). It's as if,
>>> as my friend said, every anthology seems like another writing workshop or
>>> that we all have to be in a state of writerly effusion at all times ready
>>> for the next anthology's call. Don't know if this is the case in other
>>> lands but it's a bit the thing here at the moment. A narrow view of the
>>> 'new', maybe.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/05/2013, at 8:53 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/05/13 20:44, Jill Jones wrote:
>>>>> It was more than just the usual editorial turn down. Anyway … won't go
>>> further with it.
>>>>
>>>> I am guessing this has to do with what is considered experimental. (I
>>> have had both experimental, too hard theorist and popular, which makes for
>>> a difficult time when a bio is requested. not to mention the queer or gay
>>> prob)
>>>>
>>>> However the discussion of collage I found interesting. The mis-readings
>>> of Deleuze are interesting, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> BLOG http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.com.au/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew
>> http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
>> 'Undercover of Lightness'
>> http://walleahpress.com.au/recent-publications.html
>> 'Shikibu Shuffle'
>> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/new-from-aboveground-press-shikibu.html
>
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