To all on this list ...
On 30 April 2013 08:53, Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> "Dear Jinan and All,
>
> Your recent post states that I have complained about your comments on the
> grounds that this is a list for doctoral education, suggesting that I am
> complaining because you are in some respect off-topic. This is not quite
> so. Please let me make my view clear, and let me state that this is my
> view. Others may have other views."
>
Well, yes ...
>
> This list is titled "PhD-Design.":
> " It was established in the wake of the first conference on doctoral
> education in design in Columbus, Ohio, in 1998. This list took off in
> earnest following the second conference on doctoral education in design in
> La Clusaz, France, in 2000.
>
> The purpose of the list is to serve as a forum for discussing doctoral
> education, research training, and research issues. Everyone is welcome to
> bring up any relevant topic they wish to address. The list is not "for"
> someone doing a PhD in design. Rather, it is about doctoral education in
> design and issues relating to doctoral education in design. This began
> primarily "for" people who are responsible for doctoral education and
> research training, and it swiftly grew to include people who are themselves
> getting a doctorate. Anyone interested in relevant topics is a welcome
> subscriber.
> The list is not "for" someone doing a PhD in design. Rather, it is about
> doctoral education in design and issues relating to doctoral education in
> design."
Oh dear. As far as I am concerned, this list wished to take discussion
further (to widen the net), but did not state that it would only be for PhD
in design ... since in practice it "took over" the DRS Design discussion
list ... a list that catered for ALL design issues ...
If I am wrong, then the organisers ("owners" of the list) have not made the
transition clear ... any discussion on/for design's benefit must include
any topic relating to design education, from scratch, up until the PhD in
design is compeleted ... BUT, how many topics deal with the "transition"
between a first year design student and a PhD candidate??? (what happens in
"normal" design education that makes the difference? Where does Jinan's
views fit in??
By the time you get to PhD level ... it is too late to "teach" any form of
research design ... the thought patterns are set for the immediate future .
It is only too easy to pretend that you are creating a vast number of PhD's
... people that can no more think their way out of a wet paper bag than a
first year student ...
(my reason for this statement?? a member of staff sitting across from me at
a discussion session, wagging his finger at me, after I had told him that,
surely, if you do research on internet users' patterns of behaviour ...
i.e., the way they press the buttons ... that you need [1] ethical
clearance, [2] reports from "real" people as to why they "voted" the way
they did ... I was told to my face that "I do not need you [designer] to
tell me what to do" ....
SO, of what use is this PhD design discussion list, if it ignores the most
fundamental (foundational) beginnings to its life of exploration?
Johann
PS: I have a number of similar expierncres to report ... as I am sure that
many others have as well ...
--
Dr. Johann van der Merwe
Independent Design Researcher
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