Dear Keith,
Great stuff! -:)
More elegant clarity of a kind I much like, but can't match,
and certainly can't improve upon.
I'd just add, but you probably know, Maturana would put it as
being is doing.
And, Ranulph ('cos he told me and I hope he won't mind me
telling it here) puts it as
being is the doing of being.
So, no, there's no moment of BEING prior to a being finding
itself doing.
Best regards,
Tim
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On Apr 4, 2013, at 23:46 , Keith Russell wrote:
> Dear Tim,
>
> yep, I agree, there is more than one general verb/noun and one could unpack things such that:
>
> BE implies DO as DO implies BE even if, in order to DO, one must first BE. (Is there a moment of BEING prior to a being finding itself doing?) And BEINGS DO but DOs do not BEING. I'd still urge the DO example.
>
> The STUFF and THING set is also open to equivalence of a more slippery kind.
>
> All STUFF can be called THINGS - but note - we can have a THING but we cannot have a STUFF (you can get stuffed but that does NOT mean you've had a STUFF) ; we can have THINGS, but not STUFFS (we can have a stuff-ups) (yes, I understand that STUFF is a class of things and so it is a singular plural construction - which again is about differentiation).
>
> So, at some point THINGS are more differentiated than STUFF which is why I wanted to use THING as my general noun in the case of the design of a thing. Differentiation is the key, for me. Hence, we can follow Heidegger's What is a Thing?
>
> And, STUFF is often used in a derogatory sense - for example, compare: "The falling out of things" with "the falling out of stuff". THINGS can replace STUFF in a neutral way whereas STUFF replacing THINGS is always adding flavour.
>
> One can of course say, for example, "the stuff that Sir Jonathan Ive designs is great" but that's like "Hey girlfriend, keep your sticky paws off my stuff". "This THING that Sir Jony designed" is the start of a critique.
>
> God? Is She a THING? As an object before the mind, She is a thing and some thing she is.
>
> Back to my alphabet soup.
>
> cheers
>
> keith
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