medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: Genevra Kornbluth <[log in to unmask]>
> I do intend to contact Brigitte Bedos-Rezak
that's what i said.
didn't i?
can't remember, so long ago...so many planets...
>about this eventually (formerly at UMCP,
i *know* i said that.
>now at NYU),
but not that.
though, i did know it --just "forgot."
> As I said, no context-- the ring is currently owned by a dealer. She
actually thought that the setting was Victorian
goodness, i trust you didn't enlighten her --at least not without extracting
proper compensation.
>I was very tempted to simply buy it, rather than letting her know what she
probably has.
Temptations like that should never be Overcome.
the Best Policy is to just lay back and Yield to them.
>The question of the moment is about the script-- I'm hoping that a
palaeographer or epigrapher out there can offer some guidance.
yes, i know that you're looking for some sort of "Manuel" (like Prou's on
palaeography), but wasn't able to find one in my now less-than-definitive
bibliography.
i know that there is one out there, cause i've seen it --somewhere, somewhen.
is there a little thing on "Sceaux" in that Brepols series of guides to
middlevil stuff?
it's short, but there would be a pretty good bibliography in that, i should
think.
speaking of "reused" seals/matrices, i've had an interesting problem in the
Chartres stuff which i've been wondering about for 25 years or so, and could
use some thoughts on.
it's a matter of a seal (well, actually, a 19th c. cast of a seal) which was
once attached to a 13th c. document (before c. 1227).
judging by its style, the image in the center of this seal is definitely from
c. 1150, seemingly a representation of the wonderful Sedes Virgin of the
Chartres Royal Portal (right tympanum).
the inscription in the metal setting around the image identifies the
originator of the charter, a known Cantor of the cathedral, who died in the
later 1220s.
thus, the date of the seal --or rather, the seal image-- and the date of the
script around the image and the document the seal was attached to don't
match,
by several generations.
my thought was that the original seal (image) belonged to a mid-century
bishop
of Chartres (most likely Goslen of Muzy/Leves), who was buried in the
episcopal necropolis, the abbey of Leves, just downriver from Chartres,
co-founded by two of his uncles, the Lord of the place and Bishop Godfrey of
Leves.
we know that all of the tombs out there were given spiffy new stone sculpted
effigies, circa 1220, because bits of them survive. (a tiny fragment of
textual
evidence suggests that the original sarcophagi may have been made of plaster,
with or without effigies.)
thus, the tombs were probably opened, the bodies within them examined, and
Bishop Goslen's ring perhaps taken out, put in a new setting and used by
the 13th c. Cantor as his own seal.
is this whole scenario simply a classic Mare's Nest hallucination?
a Senior Moment to top all Senior Moments?
is there any reason(s) why it just could *not* be true --like, say, a
violation of canon law which would make such tomb robbing illegal?
any thoughts on the subject would be welcome.
c
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