A Friday anecdote (well, it is effectively Friday) based on something that
by pure coincidence happened yesterday but underlining the importance of
attribution and links.
I noticed one of my Flickr images was getting lots of referrals from
Tumblr. When I checked where these were coming from I found that the image
had not only been shared extensively but someone had added a title, date,
and photographer, information that I was not aware of. And I certainly
wouldn't have picked this up if it wasn't for the link to my original item.
In case you're interested, it's this image of Paris -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/whatsthatpicture/5688040955/ - which was
initially shared here -
http://midcenturymoddesign.tumblr.com/post/45370794186/notre-dame-un-soir-de-neige-paris-1953-photo-by
Drifting even further from Mike's original topic, but something I've been
thinking about a bit lately, is anyone aware of any tools that will
automatically look for links to items that have been included in posts on
social media and aggregate them? I have used Disqus a few times on
Wordpress blogs and that does allow you to automatically pull in tweets etc
as comments, which is something towards what I am thinking.
Thanks, James
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, James Morley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> You might say that John, but I couldn't possibly comment!
>
> I don't know what scale it has reached (and it's certainly not another
> Pinterest) but there's also imgur.com which I wrote about a while back
> when it raised my hackles - see the section 'The Ugly' on
> http://www.whatsthatpicture.com/2012/09/respecting-copyright-old-photographs
>
> Lazy internet users are one thing, but if sites actually discourage or
> worse still prevent them from even unwittingly maintaining a trail of
> attribution then I start to lose my rag a bit!
>
> James
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM, James Morley <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> I know it's a rather different beast (with different 'typical' users and
>> visitors to Pinterest) but Flickr preserves all data but then allows users
>> the choice, in a very granular way, on whether to display that info
>> publicly. And come on, if it really was for that it could just trip out
>> what it thought was sensitive?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all - yes, as soon as I sent this I realised it was going over
>>> ground we'd talked about before. But I guess interesting to re-visit :-)
>>>
>>> James: guessing that Pinterest does this much like other services - for
>>> safety reasons on location tags etc?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> _____________________________
>>>
>>> Mike Ellis
>>> We do nice web stuff: http://thirty8.co.uk
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>>> On 27 March 2013 at 16:38:05, James Morley wrote:
>>> I recall the old thread around this, and at the time doing some testing.
>>> I
>>> too am normally quite relaxed (but then I'm mainly dealing with my
>>> personal
>>> collection of images, not an institution's) but what bugs me is that
>>> Pinterest in creating those surrogates strips out all the IPTC/EXIF data
>>> in
>>> any images, which just seems stupid!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Bonewell, Perry <
>>> mailto:[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Depending on traffic and so on you might not want a service to hot
>>> link.
>>> > I'd say it is preferable for them to cache the images provided they
>>> link
>>> > back.
>>> >
>>> > Then again I'm probably too relaxed about this sort of thing :)
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps I'd start getting nervous if there was a wholesale reposting of
>>> > many items ( say 25+ or whatever your threshold might be ) without some
>>> > kind of agreement with the service user or the site itself
>>> >
>>> > Perry
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>> > Mike Ellis
>>> > Sent: 27 March 2013 12:51
>>> > To: mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>> > Subject: Pinterest and non-self-hosted / scraped images
>>> >
>>> > Last one this week. I promise. Maybe.
>>> >
>>> > I was admiring the LACMA Pinterest board - http://pinterest.com/lacma/-
>>> > and then started doing some right clicking. Up until now I'd perhaps
>>> > naively assumed that Pinterest, a bit like Culture Grid, stored only
>>> > metadata and the embedded images were still hosted on the original
>>> sites.
>>> > But it turns out they're all cached, and stored on Pinterest itself.
>>> >
>>> > Actually, this doesn't surprise me at all, as it's what anyone would
>>> do if
>>> > they were building a service like that - but I am interested in the
>>> fact
>>> > that museums - who are traditionally worried about "losing" their
>>> images
>>> > are ok with this.
>>> >
>>> > What's the score? Are we ok with this because of the traffic it
>>> generates?
>>> > Is it ok because these resources all have links through to the original
>>> > page? Or are we finally accepting that stuff on the web is...on the
>>> web...?
>>> >
>>> > I'm asking because I'm in the middle of designing something
>>> museum/object
>>> > related and I'm wondering which route to go down :-)
>>> >
>>> > cheers!
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _____________________________
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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