Here's a copy of the Zins paper:
http://www.success.co.il/is/zins_definitions_dik.pdf
On 3 February 2013 22:40, the.Duke.of.URL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Quentin, The reference isn't helpful for those whose institutions do not
> subscribe to the relevant journal. Haven't you got an OA ref.?
>
> larry
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Quentin Burrell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "the.Duke.of.URL" <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 03/02/2013 20:40:49
> Subject: Re: information - meaning
>
> Chaim Zins carried out a study that might be relevant:
>
> Conceptual approaches for defining data, information, and knowledge
>
> Journal of the American Society for Information Science and Technology
>
> Volume 58, Issue 4, pages 479–493, 15 February 2007
>
>
> Quentin
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2013, at 19:10, the.Duke.of.URL wrote:
>
> These four seem to me to be the most essential. Defining them and relating
> the definitions to one another clearly would be a difficult task.
>
> However, I if we take Roger's informal def of 'data', the order of John's
> list must become Data, Information, Knowledge, Evidence. But I would
> dispute that data plus interpretation = information based on the informal
> definition alone. I would need a lot more context. I realize that Roger
> doesn't claim this, but someone seeing John's list and then looking at
> Roger's def might concoct such a relationship out of the two.
>
> Larry
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "John Bibby" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 03/02/2013 18:46:29
> Subject: Re: information - meaning
>
> Information Data Knowledge Evidence
>
> Are these the important ones?
>
> The only definition I would want to assert strongly is that "Statistics is
> the Science of Evidence" (Bibby, 2021)
>
> JOHN B
>
>
>
> ===
> Thesaurus.com has the following:
>
> "advice, ammo, break*, chapter and verse, clue,confidence, counsel, cue,
> data, dirt*, dope*,dossier, earful, enlightenment, erudition,illumination,
> info, inside story, instruction,intelligence, knowledge, leak, learning,
> lore,lowdown, material, message, network, notice,notification, orientation,
> propaganda, report,science, scoop, score, tidings, tip, what's what,whole
> story, wisdom, word*"
>
> while Roget of course has more information about information than anyone can
> stand:
>
> IV. WORDS RELATING TO THE INTELLECTUAL FACULTIES; COMMUNICATION OF IDEAS
>
> II. MODES OF COMMUNICATION
>
> Information.
> [Nouns] information, enlightenment, acquaintance, knowledge [more];
> publicity[more].
> communication, intimation; notice, notification; enunciation, annunciation;
> announcement; communiqu�; representation, round robin, presentment.
> case, estimate, specification, report, advice, monition; news [more]; return
> (record)[more]; account (description) [more]; statement (affirmation)
> [more].
> mention; acquainting; instruction (teaching) [more]; outpouring;
> intercommunication, communicativeness.
> informant, authority, teller, intelligencer, reporter, exponent, mouthpiece;
> informer, eavesdropper, delator, detective; sleuth; mouchard, spy,
> newsmonger; messenger [more]; amicus curiae.
> valet de place, cicerone, pilot, guide; guidebook, handbook; vade mecum;
> manual; map, plan, chart, gazetteer; itinerary (journey) [more].
> hint, suggestion, innuendo, inkling, whisper, passing word, word in the ear,
> subaudition, cue, byplay; gesture (indication) [more]; gentle hint, broad
> hint; verbum sapienti; word to the wise; insinuation (latency) [more].
> [Verbs] tell; inform, inform of; acquaint, acquaint with; impart, impart to;
> make acquainted with, apprise, advise, enlighten, awaken.
> let fall, mention, express, intimate, represent, communicate, make known;
> publish[more]; notify, signify, specify, convey the knowledge of.
> let one know, have one to know; give one to understand; give notice; set
> before, lay before, put before; point out, put into one's head; put one in
> possession of; instruct (teach) [more]; direct the attention to [more].
> announce, annunciate; report, report progress; bringword, send word, leave
> word, write word; telegraph, telephone; wire; retail, render an account;
> give an account (describe) [more]); state (affirm) [more].
> disclose [more].
> show cause; explain (interpret) [more].
> hint; given an inkling of; give a hint, drop a hint, throw out a hint;
> insinuate; allude to, make allusion to; glance at; tip the wink (indicate)
> [more]; suggest, prompt, give the cue, breathe; whisper, whisper in the ear.
> give a bit of one's mind; tell one plainly, tell once for all; speak
> volumes.
> undeceive, unbeguile; set right, correct, open the eyes of, disabuse.
> be informed of; know [more]; learn [more]; get scent of, gather from; awaken
> to, open one's eyes to; become alive, become awake to; hear, overhear,
> understand.
> come to one's ears, come to one's knowledge; reach one's ears.
> [Adjectives] informed; communique; reported; published [more].
> expressive [more]; explicit (open) [more], (clear) [more]; plain spoken,
> (artless) [more].
> nuncupative, nuncupatory; declaratory, expository; enunciative;
> communicative, communicatory.
> [Adverbs] from information received.
> [Phrases] a little bird told me.
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2013 18:40, Roger Boyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Some words are often used confusingly, or misused.
>>
>> So, where I come from in CS, "information" is "data with an interpretation
>> or meaning" (ergo, data is of limited value).
>> "Knowledge"? Hmmm ...
>>
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> On 3 February 2013 18:35, the.Duke.of.URL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would have thought the definition of "information" was solved around
>>> 1948 by Claude Shannon. I don't have the definition to hand but it is quite
>>> simple. Sometimes there is confusion between "information" and "knowledge"
>>> which are of course not identical. I would assume both have distinct costs
>>> associated with them. Personally, I would be more interested in the value of
>>> items of knowledge rather then just items of information, though in order to
>>> obtain the former you need to collect the latter.
>>
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