Dear All
You may also want to respond to David Martin's e-mail below and send him
some details of any research you have done which used small area statistics
e.g. population data for wards, output areas, etc.
The current proposal is to end all Census statistical data at small area
level (see e-mail below).
Regards
David Gordon
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Martin D.J. Sent: 02
February 2013 18:22
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Subject: Please act *now* if you want to save small area population data!!
Dear colleagues
Understandably, only a few of us can invest much time in following the
plans for future censuses and you may therefore be unaware of recent
developments. If you are a user of small area census data, please read on
and act if you can - there is a real risk of losing the small area census
data that you currently take for granted.
ONS are currently undertaking research on potential replacements for the
conventional census in 2021. Although that seems a very long way off,
recommendations need to go before parliament next year and the preparatory
work is already well advanced. Based on the series of roadshows run by ONS
last autumn, they have not received convincing high-value use cases for
small area population attributes. Arguments such as "they are used to
target local services" are not sufficiently robust to stand up to the
inevitable financial scrutiny. A leading option is to derive basic age/sex
data from linked administrative records and to use social survey data to
obtain the types of population attributes that would previously have been
obtained from the census - (ethnicity, LLTI, tenure, car ownership,
employment, etc.) This would clearly not deliver small area data of the
current quality, if at all.
We are urgently appealing to the research community to have your say: if no
case is made, it seems entirely likely that ONS will not be able to include
generation of costly small area data as part of the recommended option. If
you can demonstrate high-value research (and ideally high-valued impacts!)
based on small area 2001 census data, please mail us - we need to marshall
further evidence by the end of February.
Ideally, we are seeking identifiable research with an estimate of value and
impact and/or an indication of why it could not be done without high
quality small area data. If you can supply a paper or URL where further
details could be pursued, better still. NB This is about England and
Wales, although Scotland and Northern Ireland will be reviewing the same
issues in due course.
If you want to find out more about Beyond 2011, see
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/what-we-do/programmes---projects/beyond
-2011/index.html Although there is not a formal consultation currently
open, you can also mail them at [log in to unmask]
With many thanks,
David Martin, University of Southampton Email: [log in to unmask] Paul
Norman, University of Leeds Email: [log in to unmask]
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--On 25 February 2013 14:45 +0000 "Macfarlane, Alison"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> For those who were at Saturday's Radstats conference and those who
> weren't and regretted missing Danny Dorling's talk on the abolition of
> the census, here is an email I have just received. Doubtless many others
> on this list will have recived it as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 25 February 2013 11:35
> To: Macfarlane, Alison
> Subject: Beyond 2011 Programme: new publications for February 2013
>
>
>
> Dear User
>
> I am contacting you as you have previously expressed an interest in the
> work of the Beyond 2011 Programme in ONS. I am pleased to inform you of
> the release of a series of papers by the Programme on the research work
> undertaken over the past 6 months. These will explain much more about the
> approach we are taking to evaluate the options and what the next steps
> are. Further papers will be released in May and July 2013.
>
> You can find these new papers here
> http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/what-we-do/programmes---projects/beyo
> nd-2011/news/reports-and-publications/index.html
>
> If you have anything relating to Beyond 2011 that you would like to
> discuss, please contact us at [log in to unmask]
>
> We will be providing regular updates on progress and plans via our
> newsletter, which will be produced at regular intervals throughout the
> duration of the Programme, via our contacts list and online – check
> here for up-to-date news:
> http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/what-we-do/programmes---projects/beyo
> nd-2011/news/index.html
>
>
> If you would prefer not to receive any further emails from us please
> reply to this email letting us know, so that you can be removed from our
> contacts list.
>
> Thank you for your interest.
>
> Beyond 2011
> Office for National Statistics
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