medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: James Bugslag <[log in to unmask]>
> It took me a while to dig out my copy of
Adelheid Heimann, "The Capital Frieze and Pilasters of the Portail Royal,
Chartres," Journal of the Warburg and Courtauld Institutes, 31 (1968), 73-102
http://www.jstor.org/stable/750636 [or through me]
>which is, I believe, the fullest treatment of the capital frieze iconography.
and should also be read with
Crozet, René. “A propos des chapiteaux de la façade occidentale de
Chartres: Réplique de M. René Crozet à Mmme Adelheid Heimann” Cahiers de
civilisation médiévale, XIV, 1971, pp. 350-353.
[available via Persee.fr or through me]
and
Adeiheid Heimann. “A propos des chapiteaux de la façade occidentale de
Chartres: Réponse de Mme Adeiheid Heimann à M. René Crozët,” Cahiers de
civilization medieval, XIV, 1971. pp. 349-353.
http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/ccmed_0007-9731_1971_num_14_56_1905
and
Léon Pressouyre,“Contributions à l’iconographie du portail royal de
Chartres,” Bulletin monumental, Chronique, CXXVII, 1969, pp. 242-245.
[notice of the JWCI article, with comments; available through me]
>Your memory is correct.
well, Jim, sometimes, no matter what i do, accidents like that do happen.
>There is no bathing scene in the Chartres scene of the Nativity of Christ,
http://www.medart.pitt.edu/image/France/Chartres/Chartres-Cathedral/Portals/westfacade/Frieze/Sec2/Sec2Files/FCS-WEST-FRIEZE-723.htm
>although the two midwives are present, certainly, as we have heard, a related
motif. Interestingly, though, the entire scene of the Nativity of the Virgin
is represented exclusively by a scene of her bath. That must be highly
unusual. But perhaps that's another thread.
i should hope so --the Virgin in Her bath is certainly not a fit topic for a
Family List like this one and the List Mommie would be scandalized should the
subject even come up.
it is obviously better suited for Twitters, Snickers and suchlike less Serious
treatments.
after all, She was clearly a juvenile at the time and all Guardians of Public
Morality
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/01/29/statues.htm
will surely be Vigilant of any mention of the Affair, particularly
masquerading one in the name of "education."
i suppose that it was the BVM's Bath scene
http://www.medart.pitt.edu/image/France/Chartres/Chartres-Cathedral/Portals/westfacade/Frieze/Sec1/Sec1Files/FCS-WEST-FRIEZE-731.htm
http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?view=entry;cc=chartres;entryid=%20x-FCSP18105000
which made me hesitant about saying that the Infant's Bath was not present
there --all Bath scenes looking pretty much alike, to tired old eyes.
c
> the Bathing of the Infant is represented in the capital frieze of St. Mary's
of Etampes, here seen in a wretched photo
>
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYilINLmhmA4WjCKoNuOWDLCJME5JrF8Q45IS3wfaK77UkvdkLDKCZmFpvNQ
> i'm rather embarrassed to say that i can't recall whether it is to be found
in the cap frieze of Chartres or on any of the other "Early Gothic" portals
usually associated with Chartres; but i don't believe it is.
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