Dear Güneş et al,
I'm usually just a list lurker, but how stay silence with this provocative thread.
I would like to respectfully disagree with this idea that "unless working place conditions are more in alliance with the realities of life" because you are insinuating that women need flexible hours and day nursing service for kids. It is precisely this sense, that women need more flexibility, that hurts our careers in the long run.
Why do you and others assume that it is up for a woman to have this flexibility? And what about same-sex couples? Are we then less inclined to assume who needs that flexibility, and can accept that men could also step in when needed?
Best,
Cynthia
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On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:44 AM, gunes tavmen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I can sympathise with the article but I really believe it is more or less
> the same in every other industry, business whatever you want to call it.
> Just look at the gender balance for top executives and intermediate
> managers in a variety of industries and countries etc. Why so few women can
> make it to the top whereas they are statistically more successful in their
> early career be it academia or business? All around the world, in every
> field, women face with the similar problems.
>
> Unless working place conditions are more in alliance with the realities of
> life (flexible hours, day nursing service for kids), women will have to
> step aside as their responsibilities accumulate. I'm sorry but that's a
> men's world!
>
> Best,
> Güneş
>
> 2012/10/31 Filippo Salustri <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> The question that leaps to my mind is: If working conditions were improved
>> to address the concerns indicated in the article, to encourage more women
>> to enter academia, wouldn't that also improve working conditions for men -
>> thus possibly negating any expected benefits?
>>
>> I do wish there were greater gender equality amongst academics. I'm just
>> not sure how to go about achieving it.
>> /fas
>>
>> On 31 October 2012 03:38, stefanie di russo <[log in to unmask]
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello list members,
>>>
>>> I just came across this article in the Guardian which may be of interest
>>> and/or a topic of conversation:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/higher-education-network/blog/2012/may/24/why-women-leave-academia?CMP=twt_gu
>>>
>>> The comments are also particularly disturbing. This article is one of
>> many
>>> reflecting the kind of work environment researchers face. As a current
>> PhD
>>> student contemplating a career in academia, this trend is disappointing
>> and
>>> frightening.
>>>
>>> Why does academia have such a terrible reputation? Should/will it change?
>>>
>>> Thoughts..?
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> PhD Student
>>> Faculty of Design
>>> Swinburne University
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