Roger,
there will be for sure two further degrees of judgment: Appello and
Cassazione. I think a reasonable estimate to conclude everything is
about 3-4 years.
ciao
Andrea
"Musson, Roger M.W." <[log in to unmask]> ha scritto:
> And another thing, which I think I can safely raise here -
>
> Thanks to the torpid speed at which the Italian legal system moves,
> this prosecution has taken three years to come to a verdict. How
> long is the appeal going to take? Another year?
>
> In the meantime, scientists in Italy are resigning from any
> positions of responsibility in disaster management; not just the
> high profile ones reported in the news, but at lower levels as well.
> In the face of a meltdown of the Italian disaster management
> community, can the Italian state wait for the appeal to be resolved?
>
> There must be (I hope) discussions going on at a governmental level
> as to whether to intervene quickly for the good of the nation. If it
> were to appear that intervening looked like it was due to pressure
> from foreigners, it might make intervention less likely rather than
> more likely.
>
> Therefore I would counsel caution, and see what action our Italian
> colleagues request.
>
> Roger Musson
>
>
> From: Tectonics & structural geology discussion list
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eldridge Moores
> Sent: 24 October 2012 21:02
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Formal petition to the Italian government and media
>
> I think that it might be prudent to defer to our Italian colleagues
> in formulating a judicious response, and I agree that we should do
> nothing that would compromise the forthcoming appeals of the verdict
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Carlyn S Buckler wrote:
>
>
>
> I agree with Bob - we need to be conscientious about what
> we say. There is one point, however, that I have not heard made
> much of, and in reading the transcripts from the Commissione (from
> colleagues at University of Modena, Italy) and also reading the
> Scientific
> America<blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2012/10/22/the-laquila-verdict-a-judgment-not-against-science-but-against-a-failure-of-science-communication/#comment-6363> article commentary on the trial, I hope that it can somehow be addressed, and in keeping with Bob's
> point.
> The transcripts from the 2009 Commissione Nazionale dei
> Grandi Rischi meeting show that it was called to gather information
> that would "tranquilize the public" regarding their fear of
> earthquakes. The scientists were not given the opportunity to talk
> to the public; it was the politicians who devised the media
> response, not the scientists. Yes, the scientist could have had
> better language when talking to the politicians, but would that have
> made any difference? When a politician who controls funding for your
> research, and may be known for revoking that funding on a moment's
> notice for arbitrary reasons, and who can guarantee that you may
> never work in your field again, says that his/her committee needs
> information that will stop public fear, that politician will
> ultimately dictate what is said, to whom, and when.
> Contrast that with the public communication of science
> during the earthquakes in Emilia Romagna in May of2012. The
> University of Modena Earth Science Dept. held public forums,
> gavepress releases, and generally gave the public information on
> what they needed to do to prepare for any subsequent events.
> Following that, the Commissione Grandi Rischi declared that "There
> are no reliable scientific methods of earthquake prediction in the
> short term" but that "does not exclude the possibility that,
> although less likely, the seismic activity could extend to areas
> adjacent to those activated so far." This time, probably because the
> L'Aquila trial was already underway, the politicians let the
> scientists speak for themselves - and they did a great job.
> In the many countries, we can sometimes take for granted the
> relative freedom we have to do research, speak to the public
> (however effective our skills may be), and that when our government
> says we'll have X dollars of funding, in general we can count on
> that money being available. But that isn't the case in all
> countries, and we need to keep this in mind as we try to assess what
> the issues really are.
>
> Thank You -
> Carlyn S. Buckler, Ph.D.
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