medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: Jon Cannon <[log in to unmask]>
> ... or perhaps you did.
if i did, it was surely just a typo.
how could anyone imagine that Rome could "Decline"
what next, the idea that 1% of the population could own 97% of the wealth?
that's utter, hallucinogenic nonsense.
http://nymag.com/news/business/themoney/jeff-greene-2012-8/
(the final paragraph is worth reading)
c
> > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:30:39 -0400
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [M-R] Origin of church towers/minarets
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
> >
> > yes, Jon, you're right.
> >
> > i suppose i should have put "Decline" in quotes.
> >
> > mea grosso culpa.
> >
> > c
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > Received: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:26:01 AM EDT
> > From: Jon Cannon <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [M-R] Origin of church towers/minarets
> >
> > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
culture
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 'that S. Lorenzo vault is a pretty impressive feat, for an Empire in
the
> > very
> > > Throes of "Decline," i'm thinking'
> > >
> > > I'm not sure anyone at the time would have recognised that description.
> > 'Rome' had lost its grip on the north and west of Europe, but its newish
> > capitals at Milan and Constantinople where major centres of power,
> > architecturally reshaping themselves (and architecturally innovating as
they
> > did so) around the new official faith.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:08:26 -0400
> > > > From: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: [M-R] Origin of church towers/minarets
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
culture
> > > >
> > > > From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >
> > > > > On 08/01/12, Christopher Crockett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> From: "Kleinbauer, W. Eugene" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >
> > > > >>> The 4th century church of S. Lorenzo in Milan had four corner
towers
> > > > integrated into the fabric of the structure; one of the 4 towers
still
> > > > preserves its original masonry for over 22 meters: see W. Eugene
> > Kleinbauer,
> > > > "Aedita in turribus: The Superstructure of the Early Christian Church
of
> > San
> > > > Lorenzo in Milan," GESTA, vol. 15, no. ½ (1976), pp. 1-9.
> > > >
> > > > >> http://www.jstor.org/page/info/about/policies/terms.jsp
> > > > >> (i can send a copy to anyone who needs one and is not a
subscriber)
> > > >
> > > > >> http://wiki-images.enotes.com/3/33/Milano_Lorenzomaggiore.01.JPG
> > > >
> > > > > That view gives a good impression of the placement of the four
towers.
> > The
> > > > one with the original masonry for over 22 meters [of its height] is,
I
> > > > believe, the one seen at right here (the northeast tower):
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.arte.it/foto/orig/57/2469-1568_-_Milano_-_Absidi_di_san_Lorenzo_-_Foto_Giovanni_Dall_27Orto_-_18-May-2007.jpg
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/d3lzmoc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks, John.
> > > >
> > > > i looked (without success) for something which was similar to the two
> > drawings
> > > > of the "reconstructed" building found in Professor Kleinbauer's
article
> > which
> > > > clearly demonstrated how those towers functioned as "anchors" for the
> > *huge*
> > > > groin vault (over a square 24m on a side), which is the thrust of his
> > > > reconstruction of that part of the original building.
> > > >
> > > > for comparative purposes, we may note that the crossing of Amiens
> > cathedral
> > > > (built nearly a thousand years later, and covered with much more
efficient
> > Rib
> > > > Vaulting technology)
> > > >
> > > > http://instructional1.calstatela.edu/bevans/Art101/Art101B-9-Gothic
> > > > /WebPage-ImageF.00038.jpeg
> > > >
> > > > is a "mere" 15 meters (or so) on a side.
> > > >
> > > > that S. Lorenzo vault is a pretty impressive feat, for an Empire in
the
> > very
> > > > Throes of "Decline," i'm thinking.
> > > >
> > > > maybe the builders there just didn't get the Memo.
> > > >
> > > > c
> > > >
> > > >
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