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Re: AW: Relation between uplift rate and subduction zone

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Oguz Gogus <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi Taylan,



You are looking at an interesting plate convergence region (East Anatolian plateau of 2 km average elevation) where presumably the mantle lithosphere is very thin -called upon by seismic studies- and the crust is not as thick as it was previously suggested (e.g Sengor and Kidd, 1979).

So, I agree with previous recommendations for calculating isostatic support first and then extract the residual topography  (i.e., it is defined as the non-isostatic component of topography.

Because it is on the relevant topic, I can recommend you to look at our paper Göğüş and Pysklywec, 2008, (Geology), The mantle lithosphere delamination driving plateau uplift and synconvergent extension in Eastern Anatolia. We did not particularly separate these two types of topographic support (Isostatic vs Dynamic) however, you may want to track the surface evolution from a dynamic/delamination model with varying plate convergence rates.



Regards,

Oğuz







On 31 Aug 2012, at 13:05, Olivier Vanderhaeghe wrote:



Dear Taylan,



As Kurt is opening the "can", I would like to mention an interesting

paper regarding isostatic support of mountain belts considering the

crust/lithosphere thickness ratio :



Sandiford, M. and Powell, R., 1990. Some

isostatic and thermal consequences of

the vertical strain geometry in convergent

orogens. Earth Planet. Sci. Lett., 98,

154–165.



and a more recent attempt to develop this idea combining the different

modes of subduction (retreat/advance) and of crust-mantle

coupling/decoupling:



Vanderhaeghe O., and Duchene S., 2010. Crustal-scale mass transfer,

geotherm and topography at convergent plate boundaries. Terra Nova, 22,

315–323.



In order to evaluate surface uplift in Anatolia, I suggest to first

consider isostatic support considering the crust/lithosphere thickness

ratio (it is not too complicated to do), and then, if needed, open the

way to dynamic support of topography but this requires a much heavier

computation!



Good luck!



Olivier.



Le 31/08/2012 11:56, Stuewe, Kurt ([log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>) a écrit :

Dear Taylan,

As this is a subject I myself have entertained, let me chip in here:



Obviously, you first need to be clear about which of the vertical motions you want to think about (i.e. "uplift", "uplift of rocks" or "exhumation").... and Olivier put you to the classic paper on the subject (I also cannot resist the self-inflating temptation to point you to our own TECTONICS paper on the subject (Stuewe and Barr, 1998, "On uplift and exhumation during convergence", TECTONICS 17, p.80 ..... and the follow up paper in TECTONICS, 2000, 19, p.1056)



Then I would try to decide if your problem is an ISOSTATIC support problem one or one of DYNAMIC support.



If its the latter (i.e. DYNAMIC support), then all kinds of things can happen around subductions zones as we know they can both: (a) be related to mountain building and (b) to subsidence, depending on the ratio of slab roll back and convergence etc.. So in this case your problem includes a whole can-of-worms and is probably more a regional geology problem than a conceptual one. I would proceed trying to understand the history of regional dynamics......



If you do indeed think that your problem can be solved by thinking about it in terms of an ISOSTATIC support (although I think its unlikely ?), then you could proceed  by using simple considerations of isostatically supported  surface elevation (and its changes) in a 2-layer lithosphere as it is published in a number of Geodynamics text books....



If you also think this is the way to go, I may be able to point you further (outside this discussion forum?)



Best

Kurt



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Von: Tectonics & structural geology discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Olivier Vanderhaeghe

Gesendet: Freitag, 31. August 2012 10:58

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Betreff: Re: Relation between uplift rate and subduction zone



Dear Taylan,



The first thing to clarify is whether you are dealing with 'uplift' or

'exhumation' (England and Molnar, 1990. Surface uplift, uplift or rocks,

and exhumation of rocks). Uplift is defined as the motion of a material

point relative to an external fixed reference frame (example: sea level)

whereas exhumation is defined as the motion of material points in

direction of the topographic surface above it. Uplift might be

deciphered from sedimentologic and paleoenvironmental data as well as

stable isotopic signatures whereas exhumation is mainly constrained by

thermobarometric and thermochronologic data of metamorphic rocks.



I hope that this helps.



Olivier Vanderhaeghe.



Le 30/08/2012 20:22, Scott T. Marshall a écrit :

Hi Taylan,

The classic backslip paper by Jim Savage shows analytical solutions for

the relationships you are seeking for a simple 2D dipping edge

dislocation during the interseismic period.

Savave, J. C., A Dislocation Model of Strain Accumulation and Release at

a Subduction Zone. JGR. Vol 88. No B6. Pages 4984-4996, 1983.



For the long-term deformation patterns due to 2D edge dislocations, you

can look for:

Freund, L. B., and D. M. Barnett (1976), A two-dimensional analysis of

surface deformation due to dip-slip faulting, Bull. Seismol. Soc. Am.,

66(3), 667-675.



Of course a 2D dislocation model is a large simplification of a real

subduction zone, but the models are useful for understanding the basic

controls on uplift and contraction rates in a subduction zone. Also be

aware, that the ability of these models to fit geodetic data has been

only somewhat successful. If you are looking for something more complex,

Kaj Johnson has published several papers on subduction zones using

numerical viscoelastic models.

Cheers,

-Scott





On 8/30/2012 1:50 PM, T.SANCAR wrote:



Dear Scientist





I am a PhD student in the field of active tectonics. I am studying

about Quaternary Evolution of Karlıova Triple Junction (KTJ). One of

the my major work is to calculate uplift rate of East Anatolia just

east of the KTJ. I have a result but I (think) have to test the result

somehow. For this, I am trying to understand relationship between

uplift rate and plate movement (e.g. angle of subducting plate,

velocitiy of it so on).



If you please recommend any paper about this issue?





Of course I am open any idea to test my result.





Many thanks for your help.





Yours Sincerely





Taylan





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Tunceli Üniversitesi, Mühendislik Fakültesi

Jeoloji Mühendisliği Bölümü

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Olivier VANDERHAEGHE

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Dpt Geosciences

Geologie et Gestion des Ressources Minerales et Energetiques

Faculte des Sciences et Technologies

Universite de Lorraine

BP 239, 54506 Vandoeuvre les Nancy

France

+33 (0) 3 83 68 47 34

http://www.geologie.uhp-nancy.fr/Php/index.php

http://www.g2r.uhp-nancy.fr/annuaire/vanderhaeghe.html



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