Isn't this whole PLR thing a red herring? It's muddying the waters. The real
PLR issue is surely how much money the government puts in the PLR pot to
help authors. The PLR *sampling* (of public libraries) is just a *means* to
provide a fair division of the cake. Surely if we want to help authors it's
size of the cake that's the real issue? A myriad of ways could be found to
decide how best to divide the cake up.
Broadly speaking can't libraries (of any sort- or anyone) do what they want
with a books they *own*? You don't license *print* books you *own* them. If
the book is still in copyright you will be limited in making *copies*
(photocopies etc ..) but isn't that about it? So if a person or an
organisation has bought a book then it can do what it wants with it.....
loan it, sell it, burn it? How else could the myriad of libraries operate?
Some of my *old* paperbacks have a statement along the lines of "this book
is sold subject to the condition that shall not, by way of trade or
otherwise, be lent, re-sold or hired out or otherwise circulate........in
*any form of binding or cover* other than which it is published....but I
haven't seen that in a book in years
Of course *e*books (and much econtent) is different. In lots of cases you
*license* the ebooks (like software) and have to abide by the license.....ay
there's the rub.... so maybe it's time for libraries to "take arms against a
sea of troubles" :)
Maybe part of that is for organisations/libraries/individuals to support
efforts like Eric Hellman's 'unglue' *e*books.
Ken
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-----Original Message-----
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Page, Felicity
Sent: 26 July 2012 08:33
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Subject: Re: PLR and more
Does anyone have any knowledge of what book licensing agreements there are
for academic, private libraries not covered by PLR - or where/how to find
out?
Felicity Page
Customer access officer.
Camden library service.
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From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Laura Swaffield
Sent: 25 July 2012 20:44
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Subject: Re: PLR and more
Yes, it's a very complex issue and you have a point.
Meanwhile the DCMS seems to be getting into more & more of a muddle over the
whole issue.
So far the only voice to speak with authority and sense on PLR has been the
small, highly respected, super-efficient PLR organisation itself.
Guess what - the DCMS wants to abolish... er, I mean 'transfer' it!!
If by any chance people have a view on this, you have just til 30 July to
express it: http://www.culture.gov.uk/consultations/9019.aspx
Laura Swaffield
On 7/25/12, Ken Chad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Ok devil's advocate perhaps but.....libraries of all kinds -corporate,
> academic, schools, special , government etc etc -not to mention the
> subscription based (public) London Library make loans to borrowers and
> are not part of PLR. What's the problem? PLR is just a sampling
> scheme-it doesn't cover all public libraries anyway. Perhaps the
> bigger issue is no PLR (or legal deposit) on ebooks....
>
> Ken
>
> Tel +44 (0)7788 727 845. Email: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> [log in to unmask] <http://www.kenchadconsulting.com/>
> www.kenchadconsulting.com
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> Skype: kenchadconsulting Twitter: @KenChad LinkedIn:
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kenchad
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> Higher Education Library Technology wiki: <http://helibtech.com/>
> http://helibtech.com/
>
> My presentations on slideshare: <http://www.slideshare.net/kenchad>
> http://www.slideshare.net/kenchad
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>
>
> From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Frances Hendrix
> Sent: 25 July 2012 15:34
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: PLR and more
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> The DCMS has issued new guidance on the application of Public Lending
> Right but it continues to ignore the serious legal concerns raised by
> the Society of Authors. In particular, under EU legislation, authors
> are entitled to be compensated equitably for library loans made but not
covered by PLR.
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> DCMS :
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> Public lending right - how it applies
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> http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/libraries/9212.aspx
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> Frances Hendrix
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> Martin House Farm, Hilltop Lane, Whittle le Woods, Chorley, Lancs, PR6
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> Tel: 01257 274 833. Mobile: 0777 55 888 03
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