Hi Andy,
It's simple!
We need to insist that organisations become
"Disabled-Friendly Employers" and remove the barriers that
prevent us joining them and flourishing in them.
What we should not do is put the emphasis on disabled people
overcoming the barriers themselves.
It's an access issue. We would not say that women or black
people should change in order to fit into a particular
workplace and we should not say that about disabled people.
As it happens at the moment, it is very much up to
individual disabled people to over come the barriers to work
that ill informed and inflexible employers erect. This
means that "only the strong survive". It should not be like
that.
Cheers,
Paul
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From: "Andy Rickell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: Barriers to Work
Dear Larry
I tend to agree with what you are saying. The issue is how
we can successfully change the system. Answers on a
postcard ...
Best wishes,
Andy
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Larry Arnold
Sent: 25 February 2012 19:02
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Subject: Re: Barriers to Work
Barnesy makes some interesting points there. The trouble is
we live in a society and an economy that is structurally
disablist such that the economic incentives are not there
for employers to address the inequalities.
I am willing to be, cynic that I am, that if significant
numbers of disabled people started to find there way into
work, there would be a daily mail led popular backlash that
we were taking able bodied people's jobs, along with a whole
load of other bull of the sort we hear about other
minorities.
It ain't over till the fat lady sings, this government is
about an attack on all workers rights, never mind disabled
people, and the promotion of various forms of false
consciousness through the media is only of the ways they are
setting about a very class driven agenda.
It' not so much a case of 'work for those who can and
security for those who cannot' as 'work for those who are
not surplus to the economies demands and
destitution/euthanasia, for those that are'
As for "Independent living" now that is a phrase that never
had any meaning, and surely must be obsolete now, because
who but Robinson Crusoe was ever truly independant.
Interdependent living is the model of all functioning human
society. I prefer the term 'autonomous living' and in a
sense I believe that is to some extent what the term
semantically intended to imply but got hung up in the rather
inaccurate social and colloquial use of language which
renders most of it rather meaningless.
Larry
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Sent: 24 February 2012 10:30
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Subject: Re: Barriers to Work
Re: in view of that unemployment generally is an ongoing and
growing feature of all capitalist societies and that
governments of all persuasions are consistently unwilling or
unable to address the various barriers both structural and
cultural faced by disabled people, it's time to seriously
rethink the issues surrounding disabled people and
employment, see 'Work is a four letter word' (2003)
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/disability-studies/archiveuk/Barnes/work%202.pdf
Best wishes
Colin
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Larry Arnold
Sent: 23 February 2012 23:44
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Subject: Re: Barriers to Work
And what of those who have failed to overcome those barriers
then, there is judgment and condemnation even in the
supposedly emancipatory, there is the bitter pointing finger
of failure, and "you ain't quite one of us yet" isn't
there???
What do you mean by overcoming work barriers, are you not
simply pandering to the notion of the super crip, the notion
that one only needs to change oneself in order to achieve.
You are part of the machine of oppression if you believe so.
What I overcome, is the whole "Maya" of it all.
Larry
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> Dear All
>
> I would be grateful to be pointed in the direction of any
> research that meets the
> following criteria :-
>
> 1. It must involve surveying disabled people who have a
> work history about the barriers
> that they had to overcome to achieve, maintain and improve
> their work status, and must
> only be disabled people's views;
> 2. Ideally, I would prefer emancipatory research (research
> led and controlled by
> disabled people), but I would like to know about other
> examples too that you consider
> of value;
> 3. Ideally, it should be as recent as possible;
> 4. Ideally, it would be in a United Kingdom context, but I
> would be interested to know
> about examples from elsewhere, the closer to the UK
> context the better;
> 5. Ideally it would be pan-impairment, but if it is
> emancipatory I would be happy to
> look at specific impairment research;
> 6. Ideally it would cover employment, self-employment and
> cooperative-type
> employment, but I would be happy to look at anything which
> narrows down the field to
> just mainstream employment barriers.
>
> Secondly, do you believe there is a need for emancipatory
> research on the issue of
> successfully overcoming work barriers in the UK and other
> contexts, and are you
> currently involved in any ?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Andy Rickell
> CEO
> The Vassall Centre Trust
> www.vassallcentre.org
> 0117 961 7595
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