Tom
I thanketh thee most sincerely in the first person active present
singular indicative for thy syntactic pedagogy.
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On 1/9/12, Roper Tom (WESTERN SUSSEX HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
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> If it is the intention to publish, I'd suggest that some attention to
> archaic grammar, particularly verb-endings, might enhance the commandments'
> value.
> The ending -eth was used in the third person singular indicative. So,
> 'before thou ordereth a test' should be 'before thou orderest'...and so on
> Tom
>
> Tom Roper
> Primary Care Librarian
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> From: Evidence based health (EBH) [[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Ash Paul [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 09 January 2012 13:21
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Ten commandments for testing
>
> Dear Greg,
>
> I have biblified yours/Anna's list and circulated it to our NHS Public
> Health Commissioners e-group. I have proposed calling them the Fell-Sayburn
> Commandments
>
>
>
>
> 1. Before thou ordereth a test, thou shalt remembereth that “All tests can
> doeth harm. Many tests doeth good. Some tests doeth more good than harm”
>
>
>
> 1. Thou shalt knoweth the predictive positive value and predictive
> negative value of the test before thou ordereth it
>
>
>
> 1. Thou shalt knoweth that if thou ordereth a test with a positive
> predictive value below 50%, thou might as well tosseth a coin
>
>
>
> 1. Thou shalt knoweth the prevalence of the disease in the population from
> which the person thou art going to test cometh from; for combined with
> positive predictive value or negative predictive value, thou can then
> ensureth that thou hast interpreted the result properly. Thou shalt
> recogniseth that in a low prevalence population, even a very sensitive test
> has poor predictive value, and if thou ordereth such a test, thou might as
> well tosseth a coin.
>
>
>
> 1. Thou shalt knoweth exactly what thou art going to doeth with the result
> of the test before thou ordereth it. “If thou doth not know what to doeth
> with the result, or if the test is not part of an evidenced-based pathway,
> then thou shalt DESIST from ordering such a test.”
>
>
>
> 1. Thou shalt knoweth the cost of the test thou art going to ordereth,
> before thou ordereth it, and also enquireth whether there are cheaper ways
> of finding the same result.
>
>
>
> 1. Thou shalt knoweth who else might have in the past, or might in the
> future, ordereth the same test under the same set of circumstances, and then
> ensureth they know they are wasting resources as thou hast done it already
> before. Therefore, thou shalt recordeth the result of the test thou ordereth
> very clearly for all others to see.
>
>
>
> 1. Thou shalt informeth patients that “shinier scanners and swizzier kits"
> might well giveth better resolution pictures but they might not actually
> changeth a clinical management decision
>
>
>
> 1. Thou shall simply not asketh or ordereth patients to undertake
> diagnostic tests for which there is well proven evidence of no benefit
>
> 10. Thou shalt explaineth to the patient, clearly and without bias, what
> the test can and canst tell thou, and thou shalt asketh them if they are
> happy to goeth ahead on that basis.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ash
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Fell Greg <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Monday, 9 January 2012, 12:19
> Subject: Re: Ten commandments for testing
>
> accept the need for a “full” version (with refs and all that)….guess it
> depends on intended audience and endpoint. I feel the slightly humerous
> biblified version might have more “reach” (on account of the humour
> factor)….but accept that “reach” and “influence” might be two slightly
> different things.
> I am not going to die in a ditch about either.
> The important thing is that the list sees the light of day outside this e
> group – published / blogged / other. I am intending on using it extensively
> locally.
> Do colleagues feel this is publishable.
>
> gf
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