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Re: toad versus frog skeletal differences

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Christian Küchelmann <[log in to unmask]>

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Christian Küchelmann <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi Ruth,

apart from Bailon (1999) and Böhme (1977), already suggested by  
Sheila, here is what I am aware of on amphibian skeletal  
identification presently:

• Charissou, Isabelle (1999): Identification des restes trouvés dans  
les pelotes de réjéction de rapaces, Supplément EPOPS scientifique. –  
Epops – La revue des naturalistes du Limousin 44(1)

• Engelmann, Wolf-Eberhard / Fritzsche, Jürgen / Günther, Rainer /  
Obst, Fritz Jürgen (1985): Lurche und Kriechtiere Europas, Leipzig
 >>> Contains a chapter (pages 124-134) with good ID keys and  
brilliant drawings for ilium and frontoparietale of various European  
species of Discoglossus, Alytes, Bombina, Rana, Pelobates, Bufo and  
Hyla.

• Glastra, Rob (1980): Osteologische Determinatie van de inheemse  
Herpetofauna, Amsterdam
 >>> Very good ID-criteria for the complete skeleton but poor drawings.

• Schaefer, Helmut (1932): Die Artbestimmung der deutschen Anuren  
nach dem Skelet. – Zeitschrift für Anatomie und  
Entwicklungsgeschichte 97, 767-779
 >>> Keys for the pelvis of European Anura. Reliability of some  
criteria has been questioned by Böhme (1977). Very good drawings.

• Stresemann, Erwin (1989): Exkursionsfauna von Deutschland, Band 3:  
Wirbeltiere, 11. Auflage, Berlin
 >>> Contains a short chapter (p. 105-107) with criteria for the ilium.

I found especially Böhme (1977) useful as he explains in detail the  
advantages, limitiations, and reliability of the various ID criteria  
for the different species and skeletal elements. Nevertheless I would  
recommend a reference collection in addition.

I do not know Ratnikov (2001). Would you mind to pass me that paper?

Best wishes.

Christian

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Am 06.12.2011 um 18:58 schrieb Ruth Carden:

> Dear Zooarchers,
>
> Firstly, congratulations to the 1000 member mark!
>
> Secondly, could any of the 1000 Zooarchers assist me in finding any
> references (published/other) on the skeletal/anatomical differences in
> the form of drawings/photos/atlas between European frogs (common) and
> toad (Natterjack or  species. I am particularly interested in the main
> limb bones and pelvic bones and a reference, if possible, that is not
> based on size (overall measurements) differences.
>
> I have for the past few months consistently searched various databases
> and the internet but apart from Thomas's work in the Canadian
> Zooarchaeology (2010),
> http://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/zooarchaeology/article/viewFile/ 
> 5267/1776
>  I haven't found anything from Europe.
>
> If anyone can help me I would be very grateful.
> Many thanks and best wishes
> Ruth

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