Hi Dan
I'm sure you are aware of this already, but i'd like to call your
attention (and that of the other people in this thread who have
questioned the validity of the concept of "the psychopathology of the
non-disabled"... with whom i have some sympathies, but unfortunately
no time right now to fully reply to) to the Institute for the Study of
the Neurologically Typical: http://isnt.autistics.org/
Also, with regard to the sort of personal/anecdotal stuff you are
looking for, a few blogs spring to mind, notably Wheelchair Dancer
(cripwheels.blogspot.com) and Rolling Around In My Head
(davehingsburger.blogspot.com) - there are many others but most are
probably linked from one or other of those 2. Also there was something
called "Project Cleigh" (IIRC) aiming to document "small acts of
degradation" experienced by disabled people, which i read about a
couple of years ago on the Ragged Edge site, but couldn't find a link
for right now - might be able to find it when i have a bit more time
tho...
Steve
On 11/11/2011, Claire W <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> And it might also be that those who have highly visible impairments might
> make negative comments and/or be in positions of power over those who have
> non-apparent impairments? There's an interesting area here for research in
> the power relationships within the disabled community.
>
> ATB
>
> Claire
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Disability-Research Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan
> Sent: 11 November 2011 12:46
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call for stories
>
> Hi Karen,
>
> This is very interesting.
>
> I think Dan was talking about comments by people generally,
> on the Bus or train so to speak, rather than by those in
> particular positions of power over us. Unless you believe
> that not having an impairment puts you in a position of
> power over someone who does automatically.
>
> I wonder if there is not a power in balance between
> different disabled people too. I suspect that it is the
> people who have their needs met the most, or who can find
> ways of working round their particular impairments, who
> disparage other disabled people the most.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Beauchamp-Pryor" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call
> for stories
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Another thought about the 'us' and 'them' divide in terms of
> the
> inappropriateness use of comments: it is about the divide
> between those who
> hold power and those who lack power and in many situations
> it is the
> disabled person who lacks power and lacks a voice. When I
> was researching
> the experiences of disabled students in higher education I
> attended a number
> of meetings as an observer. At one of these meetings a
> remark was made
> about whether the experiences of disabled students needed to
> be taken into
> consideration and a senior manager responded: 'well we are
> talking about odd
> balls'. For me, it is about the power behind such a comment
> and,
> personally, if I was called an 'odd ball' I would react
> differently
> depending on who made the remark and in what context.
>
> Karen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Sullivan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <Another thought about the 'us' and 'them' divide in
> terms of the
> inappropriateness use of comments: it is about the divide
> between those who
> hold power and those who lack power and in many situations
> it is the
> disabled person who lacks power and lacks a voice. When I
> was researching
> the experiences of disabled students in higher education I
> attended a number
> of meetings as an observer. At one of these meetings a
> remark was made
> about whether the experiences of disabled students needed to
> be taken into
> consideration and a senior manager responded: 'well we are
> talking about odd
> balls'. For me, it is about the power behind such a comment
> and,
> personally, if I was called an 'odd ball' I would react
> differently
> depending on who made the remark and in what context.
>
> Karen
>
>>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:38 PM
> Subject: Re: The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call
> for stories
>
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Don't you think that disabled people make such comments
> about other disabled people with impairments different from
> their own? I think they do. In fact I have heard them.
>
> I think we need to stop talking about "them" and "us" and
> recognise that we are all "us".
>
> Just a thought, and not an original one either.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Goodley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call
> for stories
>
>
> Comrades
>
> I have already received many, many powerful responses to my
> request last month. I have responded to people individually
> but wanted also to say a big collective thanks. Also, I
> wanted to send one further email request out for those that
> might have missed it. Many thanks Dan.
>
> The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call for stories
>
> Comrades
>
> I am writing a slightly tongue in cheek (as you can tell by
> the working title) but also, I hope, serious, article
> exploring non-disabled people's reaction to disability. I
> would like to collect stories from list members about
> non-disabled people's verbal or other responses to
> disability that you have witnessed.
>
> In writing the article I will be making clear that not all
> non-disabled people engage in such responses, that many
> non-disabled people are allies, friends, supporters and
> parents of disabled people and that we are all marked by
> differences associated with class, gender, age, sexuality,
> ethnicity, etc. Moreover, of course, what counts as
> non/disabled is open to debate. However, I do want the
> article to expose, hopefully explain and also challenge some
> of the common reactions of non-disabled society to
> disability.
>
> I have already collected a number of stories from existing
> disability studies texts, research and my own personal
> accounts. Some of these include:
>
>
> You get that all the time people stare, people comment, or
> people ... I would rather people said to me, 'What's wrong?'
> rather than just stare. Then you can hear them as soon as
> you walk past, [whisper sounds]. (Jemma, mother of a
> disabled child reported in McLaughlin et al, 2008).
>
> When people comment on my impaired experience I am shocked,
> amused and angered all at once (Hewitt, 2004: 13).
>
> A lifetime with psychic armour as sure as skin ... where
> thousands of daily encounters are layered with danger,
> disgust or distress (Lurie, 2004: 85)
> 'Your child's the naughty boy in my child's class, isn't he?'
> (A parent's question to the mother of a child with the label
> of ADHD).
>
> 'I never think of you as disabled' (A common 'positive'
> comment from friends of the disabled writer Michalko, 2002)
>
> 'At least he's not too disabled' (A health visitors comments
> to the mother of a new-born baby).
>
> 'Did you read on the web that 52% of the American public
> would prefer to be dead than disabled?' (Bar chat on a
> November night).
>
> 'You are just so brave, I don't know how you cope' (A mother's
> comment to another mother of a disabled child in the
> playground).
>
> 'I don't know how you can work with those people ... It must
> be so rewarding to work with those people' (Contradictory
> comments from a friend to a key worker for people with
> learning difficulties).
>
> 'I've had coins dropped in my lap by strangers in the street'
> (Hewitt, 2004)
>
> 'Don't worry about paying love, we don't charge for retards'
> (comment from a fairground assistant to the mother of a
> disabled child, from Goodley and Runswick Cole,
> forthcoming).
>
>
> If you would be willing to share some similar (or not!)
> stories then please could you email them to
> [log in to unmask] Any reference to these stories in the
> article would recognise the source (e.g. as shared by Jon
> Smith, 2011, personal communication) but, of course, if you
> would prefer to keep these anonymous then that would be
> totally fine too.
>
> Thanks for reading
>
> Dan Goodley
>
> Dr Dan Goodley
> Professor of Psychology and Disability Studies
> Manchester Metropolitan University
> Department of Psychology
> Manchester, M13 0JA
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> Sutherland [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Sorry Wrong Link this is what I meant
>
> Thanks for that link, Larry. It encapsulates a great deal
> of what I feel
> about being epileptic.
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Allan Sutherland
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "larry Arnold" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:43 AM
> Subject: Sorry Wrong Link this is what I meant
>
>
> Sorry I sent the wrong link I was looking for this
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