Hi,
There are many very supportive non-disabled people and, as individuals
some disabled people have more powere than some non-disabled people.
There are analogies between the position of men and women or white and
black people. Factors such as gender, race, class, visible/invisible
impairment etc also affect power relationships. While we clearly need
to avoid oversimplifications, I would assume that the aims of this book
include fighting back and demystifying the power of non-disabled
people. However, I would suggest that psychopathology is not the most
appropriate expression. I also agree with Claire on the need for more
research on power relationships.
Marion
Claire W wrote:
> Hi,
>
> And it might also be that those who have highly visible impairments might make negative comments and/or be in positions of power over those who have non-apparent impairments? There's an interesting area here for research in the power relationships within the disabled community.
>
> ATB
>
> Claire
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Disability-Research Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Sullivan
> Sent: 11 November 2011 12:46
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call for stories
>
> Hi Karen,
>
> This is very interesting.
>
> I think Dan was talking about comments by people generally,
> on the Bus or train so to speak, rather than by those in
> particular positions of power over us. Unless you believe
> that not having an impairment puts you in a position of
> power over someone who does automatically.
>
> I wonder if there is not a power in balance between
> different disabled people too. I suspect that it is the
> people who have their needs met the most, or who can find
> ways of working round their particular impairments, who
> disparage other disabled people the most.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Beauchamp-Pryor" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call
> for stories
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Another thought about the 'us' and 'them' divide in terms of
> the
> inappropriateness use of comments: it is about the divide
> between those who
> hold power and those who lack power and in many situations
> it is the
> disabled person who lacks power and lacks a voice. When I
> was researching
> the experiences of disabled students in higher education I
> attended a number
> of meetings as an observer. At one of these meetings a
> remark was made
> about whether the experiences of disabled students needed to
> be taken into
> consideration and a senior manager responded: 'well we are
> talking about odd
> balls'. For me, it is about the power behind such a comment
> and,
> personally, if I was called an 'odd ball' I would react
> differently
> depending on who made the remark and in what context.
>
> Karen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Sullivan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <Another thought about the 'us' and 'them' divide in
> terms of the
> inappropriateness use of comments: it is about the divide
> between those who
> hold power and those who lack power and in many situations
> it is the
> disabled person who lacks power and lacks a voice. When I
> was researching
> the experiences of disabled students in higher education I
> attended a number
> of meetings as an observer. At one of these meetings a
> remark was made
> about whether the experiences of disabled students needed to
> be taken into
> consideration and a senior manager responded: 'well we are
> talking about odd
> balls'. For me, it is about the power behind such a comment
> and,
> personally, if I was called an 'odd ball' I would react
> differently
> depending on who made the remark and in what context.
>
> Karen
>
>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:38 PM
> Subject: Re: The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call
> for stories
>
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Don't you think that disabled people make such comments
> about other disabled people with impairments different from
> their own? I think they do. In fact I have heard them.
>
> I think we need to stop talking about "them" and "us" and
> recognise that we are all "us".
>
> Just a thought, and not an original one either.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Goodley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call
> for stories
>
>
> Comrades
>
> I have already received many, many powerful responses to my
> request last month. I have responded to people individually
> but wanted also to say a big collective thanks. Also, I
> wanted to send one further email request out for those that
> might have missed it. Many thanks Dan.
>
> The psychopathology of the non-disabled: a call for stories
>
> Comrades
>
> I am writing a slightly tongue in cheek (as you can tell by
> the working title) but also, I hope, serious, article
> exploring non-disabled people's reaction to disability. I
> would like to collect stories from list members about
> non-disabled people's verbal or other responses to
> disability that you have witnessed.
>
> In writing the article I will be making clear that not all
> non-disabled people engage in such responses, that many
> non-disabled people are allies, friends, supporters and
> parents of disabled people and that we are all marked by
> differences associated with class, gender, age, sexuality,
> ethnicity, etc. Moreover, of course, what counts as
> non/disabled is open to debate. However, I do want the
> article to expose, hopefully explain and also challenge some
> of the common reactions of non-disabled society to
> disability.
>
> I have already collected a number of stories from existing
> disability studies texts, research and my own personal
> accounts. Some of these include:
>
>
> You get that all the time people stare, people comment, or
> people ... I would rather people said to me, 'What's wrong?'
> rather than just stare. Then you can hear them as soon as
> you walk past, [whisper sounds]. (Jemma, mother of a
> disabled child reported in McLaughlin et al, 2008).
>
> When people comment on my impaired experience I am shocked,
> amused and angered all at once (Hewitt, 2004: 13).
>
> A lifetime with psychic armour as sure as skin ... where
> thousands of daily encounters are layered with danger,
> disgust or distress (Lurie, 2004: 85)
> 'Your child's the naughty boy in my child's class, isn't he?'
> (A parent's question to the mother of a child with the label
> of ADHD).
>
> 'I never think of you as disabled' (A common 'positive'
> comment from friends of the disabled writer Michalko, 2002)
>
> 'At least he's not too disabled' (A health visitors comments
> to the mother of a new-born baby).
>
> 'Did you read on the web that 52% of the American public
> would prefer to be dead than disabled?' (Bar chat on a
> November night).
>
> 'You are just so brave, I don't know how you cope' (A mother's
> comment to another mother of a disabled child in the
> playground).
>
> 'I don't know how you can work with those people ... It must
> be so rewarding to work with those people' (Contradictory
> comments from a friend to a key worker for people with
> learning difficulties).
>
> 'I've had coins dropped in my lap by strangers in the street'
> (Hewitt, 2004)
>
> 'Don't worry about paying love, we don't charge for retards'
> (comment from a fairground assistant to the mother of a
> disabled child, from Goodley and Runswick Cole,
> forthcoming).
>
>
> If you would be willing to share some similar (or not!)
> stories then please could you email them to
> [log in to unmask] Any reference to these stories in the
> article would recognise the source (e.g. as shared by Jon
> Smith, 2011, personal communication) but, of course, if you
> would prefer to keep these anonymous then that would be
> totally fine too.
>
> Thanks for reading
>
> Dan Goodley
>
> Dr Dan Goodley
> Professor of Psychology and Disability Studies
> Manchester Metropolitan University
> Department of Psychology
> Manchester, M13 0JA
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> Sutherland [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Sorry Wrong Link this is what I meant
>
> Thanks for that link, Larry. It encapsulates a great deal
> of what I feel
> about being epileptic.
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Allan Sutherland
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "larry Arnold" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:43 AM
> Subject: Sorry Wrong Link this is what I meant
>
>
> Sorry I sent the wrong link I was looking for this
> instead: -
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